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« on: June 28, 2011, 01:16:36 am »

So PE was given  *another* AI unit but we still don't have a medium AT tank.

Here is the idea:  Move the PZ II to standard PE units (it fits ok to 'pe gameplay' with ists and wirbles)
and make PZ 3 as a reward unit.

What would PZ3 be? Give it stats from pz2 but up the health to 500,  give it same gun but up the penetration so it can penetrate sherman from front and lower acc vs inf.
It makes 30 damage per shot so if all 4 in go in it's 120 damage. If that is too much it can fire 3 per salvo so it's 90 damage (it would miss from long range so not always all 4 would go in).

What would be the tank purpose? It's a fast little tank , so it's main purpose would be to go in and help finish that 2/3 hp sherman.

Why PE needs a medium  AT tank?  Because the only other one they got is a panther !!
(marders and 50mm don't count, they are atgs!)

US got jackson and CW Comet so can PE finaly have it's medium tank which it neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds ?
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 01:21:38 am »

panzerIII L need to be something like a wehr P4 gun on a stug health and armored vehicle for 180-200fuel
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 01:24:53 am »

panzerIII L need to be something like a wehr P4 gun on a stug health and armored vehicle for 180-200fuel

but it should have a turret , otherwise it will be another  jagpanzer or w/e


Things that this tank needs to do:

+ penetrate
+ ok damage
+ fast
+ turret
+ HP of atleast 500

(stug armor seems fine)
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 01:26:46 am »

yes,we dont need another
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BigDick
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 01:31:57 am »

but it should have a turret , otherwise it will be another  jagpanzer or w/e


Things that this tank needs to do:

+ penetrate
+ ok damage
+ fast
+ turret
+ HP of atleast 500

(stug armor seems fine)

sounds like the jackson then

i thought pe would nee something more like allround mainbattle tank

like

- ok damage
- ok penetration
- average speed
- average health
- turret

something between cromwells/sherman/P4 that maybe have its weakness but its cheaper
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 01:34:42 am »

PIII

Panzer IV Armor

Gun similar to 50mm Puma, slightly more damage and splash similar to P4 7.5cm

400hp

Slightly faster

Able to buy skirts and MG Mount.

Fun.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 01:34:57 am »




IMO no point of giving it a main battle tank because they never had one ,  and they got plenty of AI tanks, so now give to them an AT tank.

Think of it like this,  instead of having 1 average pz4.  You will have 1 specialized pz2 for infantry and 1 specialized  pz 3 for AT.  

I know that it might require more fuel and pop , but it's different playing to having 1 average MBT.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 01:50:58 am »

So PE was given  *another* AI unit but we still don't have a medium AT tank.
They were?

What doctrine?

Cos they sure as fuck arent on the normal unit lists.....
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 01:52:08 am »

They were?

What doctrine?

Cos they sure as fuck arent on the normal unit lists.....



You know what i'm talkin of  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 01:54:03 am »

You know what i'm talkin of  Tongue
I sure do ;P

We're still looking for a suitable med tank for PE - possibly/probably doctrinal.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 02:37:02 am »


IMO no point of giving it a main battle tank because they never had one ,  and they got plenty of AI tanks, so now give to them an AT tank.

Think of it like this,  instead of having 1 average pz4.  You will have 1 specialized pz2 for infantry and 1 specialized  pz 3 for AT.  

I know that it might require more fuel and pop , but it's different playing to having 1 average MBT.

what i really like to see for every PE company are ATG/Paks

but its hard to fit AT57mm stats and behavior into a P3 model without looking retarded

so a P3 would be something like a tank unfortunately

and imho the PE has enough specialized units there is no need for an other one....
the bad thing is that everything dies to AT spam but you can't get around of that by giving them an other tank

what they really don't have that all other factions have is something that can support infantry to take out hmgs and vehicles like a mainbattle tank

an other option would be to make the brumbär/sturmpanzer4 useful to be an assault infantry support tank that has bigger stuh shot without being a click ability and almost impenetrateable frontal armor (since it has no turret) like jagdpanther or maybe a hetzer

currently it has shit stug armor no turret and avre shot as click ability
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 03:56:04 am »

Panzer 2 + Marder/50mm  Best main battletank you could get.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2011, 03:58:44 am »

2-3 atg's?
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