TheIcelandicManiac
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« on: July 16, 2011, 12:46:53 pm » |
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I know you guys dont agree with me on anything but i was wondering again.
Assult grens cost 120 mun but they can be renderd useless by a single mortar shell so unless you have a teamate that has some sorta a healing device or have either heal car or T3 Medkits with falls but how about giving them the ability to buy medkits for around 20-30 mun?
They are quite expensive for a unit that can be reduced to 20 Hp each man with ease by a grenade or a mortar shell But hey, you guys shot this idea down the last time i brought it up so i doupt it will be any diffrent now.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 12:53:36 pm » |
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few patches ago price was 90 mu for them but they were ninja nerfed. Old price was fine for them imo.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 12:54:32 pm » |
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i think the biggest threat is bar suppression/damage not the healing problem
in most cases assault grens will need to be retreated/die during assault anyways
but currently since lose of soldier armor they can't even get close (unlike KCH that are harder to suppress and sometimes even have anti suppression doctrine abilities) so they are overpriced compared to a bar rifle squad
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nugnugx
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 12:57:42 pm » |
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Haven't seen a single assault gren in game since around 7 patches probably since the price change.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 01:00:21 pm » |
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Well i have started using them after I got the Falls Medkits for they heal quite well and are quite cheap for the amount of mun i save with tehm.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 01:02:30 pm » |
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I bet we could give normal grens an MP44 package and you guys would think it was the best thing since god made boobs.  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2011, 01:03:55 pm » |
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I bet we could give normal grens an MP44 package and you guys would think it was the best thing since god made boobs. depends on price , 120 mu on grens i wouldn't buy them 80 maybe |
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 01:06:41 pm » |
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I run 5 Squads of them on my SE company. But I make heavy use of the Healing scout car. They do feel rather fragile(but then again they always have to me) and I find that using them correctly improves my play with other Assault infantry. These troops just have nothing that makes them especially special.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 01:06:58 pm » |
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I bet we could give normal grens an MP44 package and you guys would think it was the best thing since god made boobs. Well if you would give me the ability to buy 2 mp44s for 60 mun intead of 4 for 120 yes i would be happy. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2011, 01:08:08 pm » |
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I run 5 Squads of them on my SE company. But I make heavy use of the Healing scout car. They do feel rather fragile(but then again they always have to me) and I find that using them correctly improves my play with other Assault infantry. These troops just have nothing that makes them especially special.
Well the reason why i want to buy medkits on Assult grens is becouse if i am TD or Luft without the T3 medkits i am quite fucked if they get hit by a stray mortar Shell. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2011, 01:09:43 pm » |
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Well the reason why i want to buy medkits on Assult grens is becouse if i am TD or Luft without the T3 medkits i am quite fucked if they get hit by a stray mortar Shell.
How is that different than any other infantry that does not have built in healing available? I'm all for a Price Drop though, 120mu is retarded. Try 100, see if its too expensive or too cheap. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2011, 01:22:08 pm » |
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How is that different than any other infantry that does not have built in healing available?
I'm all for a Price Drop though, 120mu is retarded. Try 100, see if its too expensive or too cheap.
Well most other units have some sorta of a healing device, WM has Medkits, US has no real expensive unit that is not Rangers or or AB and sence most games you allways are with US Inf doctrine do you dont Have to worry. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2011, 01:27:16 pm » |
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How about this, We revert the pgren change for Assault grens only, as assault grens are meant to be facing infantry anyway, not vehicles, and that soldier armour will buff them conciderably vs bars and other infantry weapons. And obviously that includes reverting the price change.
The bonuses to PE players -
Lower Cost
Lower Pop
Slightly better survivability vs INF weapons
Easier to heal
Cons to PE players -
Killed faster by vehicles
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2011, 01:30:23 pm » |
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Clearly, nobody here, has ever, played with mr 5mp44startguy.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2011, 01:31:04 pm » |
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And who the fuck is that?
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2011, 01:43:17 pm » |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2011, 10:05:40 am » |
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So we all agree they need a price buff?
even tym?
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nugnugx
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2011, 10:08:43 am » |
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give them elite armor and 20 health per every guy.
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2011, 10:42:23 am » |
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How about this, We revert the pgren change for Assault grens only, as assault grens are meant to be facing infantry anyway, not vehicles, and that soldier armour will buff them conciderably vs bars and other infantry weapons. And obviously that includes reverting the price change.
The bonuses to PE players -
Lower Cost
Lower Pop
Slightly better survivability vs INF weapons
Easier to heal
Cons to PE players -
Killed faster by vehicles
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nugnugx
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2011, 10:58:23 am » |
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They are 'assault' grenadiers so they need to be able to get in close to kill but
- they are not stormtroopers they cannot cloak
- they are not kch they don't have elite armor nor the hp.
Assault grenadiers are bad for assaulting becausing you will get suppressed or killed on your way to enemy unit, something should be done about their ability to move in and kill.
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