nugnugx
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« on: July 16, 2011, 01:02:10 pm » |
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Why g43 suppression is worse than bars?
It lasts shorter , has worse multiplier and upclose bars do more dps.
Old slow was better than current suppression imo.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 01:09:41 pm » |
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Because it's shorter, though it probably needs some finetuning.
Old slow was broken.
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AmPM
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 01:10:49 pm » |
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OMG! Your 60mu Rifle doesn't suppress as well as an 80mu Light Machinegun? CRAZY!
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 01:35:56 pm » |
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yea ampm, it doesnt even do 3/4 as well either. More like 1/3 or 1/4 as well. Try it yourself...
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 01:37:13 pm » |
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That shit is suppose to supress?
i just use it to Boost the ROF for my G43 for when they are in close range and its active it eats the Rifles up Faster than it even supresses.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 01:42:43 pm » |
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That shit is suppose to supress?
i just use it to Boost the ROF for my G43 for when they are in close range and its active it eats the Rifles up Faster than it even supresses.
If this works, rgd guy is dumb. That is all |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2011, 01:46:26 pm » |
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If this works,
rgd guy is dumb.
That is all
Well i think it boosts ROF for it atleast sounds like it. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 01:50:23 pm » |
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it's fine because i dont think it has any negative modifers when used, so thats a definite boost over bars which get an accuracy nerf
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 01:51:01 pm » |
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it does lower cooldown, but acc goes to shit too.
The problem with this weapon is that G43 int meant to suppress.
Look at G43 medium and close range suppression, it is alot lower than long range suppression, even though it fires faster its still not better than suppressing at long range.
So basically short and med suppress should go up probably, and fine tune the rest of the ability some more.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2011, 01:52:03 pm » |
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Well at super Close range Acc reduction dose shit to nothing tbh.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2011, 02:18:11 pm » |
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the ability is fine imo from playing against it, unless the changes made it worse.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2011, 02:42:35 pm » |
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maybe screw the whole suppression idea, its just a copy of BARs, and call it Volley Fire, with drastically reduced cooldown and reload, for pure DPS pwnage
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2011, 02:55:48 pm » |
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yea it got nerfed to shit in the patch
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2011, 03:03:58 pm » |
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maybe screw the whole suppression idea, its just a copy of BARs, and call it Volley Fire, with drastically reduced cooldown and reload, for pure DPS pwnage
that WOULD be awesome IF it is a copy of BARs but unfortunately its shit and can in nowhere keep up with bars what i think is needed is to give the G43 suppression only a small buff but the bar suppression a big nerf |
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2011, 03:37:54 pm » |
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That shit is suppose to supress?
i just use it to Boost the ROF for my G43 for when they are in close range and its active it eats the Rifles up Faster than it even supresses.
DPS will be decreased. the accuracy is less. scattered shells do not collide with infantry (not even with vehicles in fact) only with the luftwaffe T3 you get SLIGHTLY more dps at close range and SLIGHTLY less dps at long. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2011, 03:42:18 pm » |
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maybe all suppression fire needs to be taken out, give g43's, bars and vickers suppression increases and raise the accuracy of the .30 cal slightly to more differentiate it from the mg42
for those who say "the .30 cal already has more acc" it doesn't, the mg42 is actually more accuracy, especially with incremental accuracy (firing at 6 man squads over 4) it just suppresses faster so it doesn't always get to use it but put infantry in close range to a mp42 and a .30 cal and watch which squad dies faster
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Smokaz
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2011, 04:01:19 pm » |
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Bars cost increase?
Nooooo, don't take away my 16 bar 5 atg infantry company.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 04:22:22 pm » |
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16 bar squads only? i can top that with a 19x tripple bar company makes 57bars in total  |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 04:24:58 pm » |
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But how many RIFLES do you have, bigdick? I never said how many grenades I have as well - or triages. YOU CANT BEAT IT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES, I BET YOU HAVE A SHERMAN, HA HA HA HA
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AmPM
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2011, 05:05:10 pm » |
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Remove G43 suppression, give it a timed ability to increase long range DPS. Niche role, able to fight at range, still has it's weak spots.
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