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Mysthalin
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #160 on:
August 07, 2011, 02:11:05 pm »
I'm retired from this, Katusha.
I've had enough.
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Katusha
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #161 on:
August 07, 2011, 02:13:43 pm »
MP44 vs BAR fight isn't even that important
What's important is MP44's are only good at close range, dont get SF, and cost 95 MU. Can't we agree there? The price is clearly too high for what they can do well, and that is decrew atgs and support weapons, and kill vanilla riflemen.
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nugnugx
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #162 on:
August 07, 2011, 02:15:10 pm »
Quote from: Katusha on August 07, 2011, 02:08:14 pm
According to nug, MP44 DPS is 38, BAR is 36 (dont even know at what range??)
close range ofcourse. 1 mp44 19 dps , 1 bar 18.
I don't even have to add that the mp44 medium and long dps is accordingly 4 and 1 where as bars is 7 and 2 which is obvious to everyone.
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Smokaz
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #163 on:
August 07, 2011, 03:52:54 pm »
One thing you have to consider is that while bars on cooldown, they can't even take out a grenadier squad with a medikit in cover.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #164 on:
August 07, 2011, 04:42:53 pm »
You also have to consider target tables.
Now whats 2 bars dps vs inf armour?
Then 2 mp44s vs inf armour.
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nugnugx
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #165 on:
August 08, 2011, 12:21:43 am »
Quote from: Smokaz on August 07, 2011, 03:52:54 pm
One thing you have to consider is that while bars on cooldown, they can't even take out a grenadier squad with a medikit in cover.
flank them around on long range around cover , pop sf , get in close , kill.
but hey, this is not a bar thread, i was just answering katusha.
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Tymathee
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #166 on:
August 08, 2011, 01:10:55 am »
bars vs mp44's is a whole 'nother thing all together. a dual mp44 storm will easily take care of a bar squad because it's not only the mp44 that's stronger than the bars, its the 2 elite kars that are better than the 3 garands and carbine.
You also have to consider bars can be dropped and because of squad health. If dps = 38 for the mp44 and dps is 36 for the bar, the bar squad will die at a faster rate.
38 + 38 = 76 means 2 bursts and one guy is dead.
36 + 36 = 72 means one storm squad is damage but not dead it's now 4-5
2 more bursts, another rifle guy
2 more bar bursts one storm squad dead one damage with 36 so its now 3 stormies, 4 rifleguys n so on.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #167 on:
August 08, 2011, 01:31:33 pm »
You guys still arnt factoring target tables of bar.
No point in trying to argue numbers if you guys cant even realize the 2 bar dps vs storms is actualy 26.6 DPS, and the 2 mp44 vs riflemans is 38.8 dps.
Use a damn calculator you noobs. herpaderp.
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BigDick
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #168 on:
August 09, 2011, 03:32:47 pm »
how about we lower the price of mp44 significantly and raise the price of storms?
storms are used for shreks or even without upgrade quite often but seldom with mp44 so maybe increasing basic MP price of storms would do the trick while decreasing mun cost of mp44
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AmPM
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #169 on:
August 09, 2011, 03:37:32 pm »
Quote from: BigDick on August 09, 2011, 03:32:47 pm
how about we lower the price of mp44 significantly and raise the price of storms?
storms are used for shreks or even without upgrade quite often but seldom with mp44 so maybe increasing basic MP price of storms would do the trick while decreasing mun cost of mp44
The base Stormtrooper is good where it is. MP44 is the real issue, because it doesn't do enough compared to the cost of losing your units to a BAR.
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Nug
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #170 on:
May 10, 2012, 06:45:37 am »
12 page thread, few months later and still no cheaper 2xmp44?
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panzerman
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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May 10, 2012, 07:09:20 am »
inb4 tank's banhammer!
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tank130
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Re: [WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice
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Reply #172 on:
May 10, 2012, 07:50:19 am »
Nug, stop being a pain in my ass.
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