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« on: August 10, 2011, 08:00:40 pm » |
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How important is it? What are your ways of doing it for different factions? (preferably your strongest faction/doctrine)
My favorite is using riflenades, backed up by a cloaked MG-34 (or just FG42 fallschirmjagers) and luring allied assault squads into the MG.
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AmPM
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 08:05:41 pm » |
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It's a must for proper M18 usage.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 08:10:25 pm » |
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Not really, with proper micro you can run a M18 up, cloak, fire, and back out before a retaliation shot.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 08:12:18 pm » |
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With HVAP, they bait you. Freaking marders.
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| Katusha
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 08:41:22 pm » |
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Marders are pretty nice, but very terrain dependent.. perhaps TOO terrain dependent
Yeah, bait medium tanks with rifles and bang them with a hellcat.. you'll probably even get 2 shots off before he can pull back out of your range. If you have HVAP.. that P4 will need to go repair, and with 45 range its pretty easy to finish it off before it can even do that.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 08:46:21 pm » |
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Thing is that its cost effective to sacrifice a marder vs a hellcat. Hellcats will have two repairs and cost more munitions overall, and slightly more fuel. Marders are really the best fuel-based AT at the moment. Hellcats out of armor doctrine aren't predominant because of lack of buffs and other fuel usages being equally or more interesting/viable. For Inf you have the new HT type, jumbos and howies.
I do see some AB players running m18s though, don't really know why they need to introduce m18 into a selection of RRs, stickies and 57mms other than to save munitions.
As for baiting, a dangerous but effective practise is to tease people with kettenkrads and snipers to make them charge.
I had a period a while back when I actually thought a lot about my play (to stay #1) and I also experimented with turning MG's the wrong way to bait infantry squads in. These days I don't have the motivation to play so complicated.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 09:00:45 pm » |
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Yes, but it's not like you can charge a hellcat with a marder, like you can charge a marder with a hellcat. I think they're both nicely priced compared to each other. Marder is a bit overpriced (fuel is the most limited resource after all), considering how easily it is negated by a building or shotblocker, and hellcat is underpriced for how great it becomes with doctrine buffs and the recent vcoh buff vs infantry. But this isn't the place for that..
And lolwut? why would chase a kettenkrad as much as a sniper? Stationary sniper builds get owned by arty or offmaps
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 09:11:51 pm » |
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Luftket can ruin your day, tbh.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 09:44:34 pm » |
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Baiting should be done by every player. It isn't hard to bait, just that sometimes it just wont work if they got scouts and ninjascouts(like audemed said) peeping and looking at your crap.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 10:00:03 pm » |
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 11:39:02 pm » |
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Step 1: Purchase a sniper Step 2: set up a defensive line Step 3: run sniper forwards and backwards on line to aggravate enemies. profit! works the same with AB  |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 11:54:58 pm » |
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I'd marry the elephant fapper girl because I'd know she has a good tug in her.
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| MorkaandBorka
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 11:56:50 pm » |
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Why even bother baiting, yawn...only fatties fall for fail baits.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2011, 12:01:46 am » |
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imho baiting only works vs noobs or if you use something continuously causing damage (e.g. sniper, mortar...) otherwise good players either smell the trap or only attack when they got good battlefield-awareness by scouting I had a period a while back when I actually thought a lot about my play (to stay #1) and I also experimented with turning MG's the wrong way to bait infantry squads in. These days I don't have the motivation to play so complicated.
i loled ...blobs are running around... Vent: "you r mg pointing to spawn turn ur mg TURN UR MG TURN UR MG U FUCKN NOOB" "shut up i bait them" |
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 12:17:36 am » |
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yeah bow down son of perplexity  |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 12:24:37 am » |
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You should do some translating for your german friends chw1306GER and LuckyGer or are all germans as dense as you? They retreat all their units at full health. Elitegren is a mute norwegian in disguse tbfh
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 12:36:38 am » |
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Hey now, they weren't THAT bad...they did manage to kill one of my falls cause I didnt realize the spawn buff was still active...
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 12:43:08 am » |
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smokaz stop playing with bad players that you dont know?
Never play this game for fun anymore? Its just annoying and stupid...
They didnt flank, ran striagt into mgs, and like he said retreated everything.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2011, 01:09:47 am » |
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Smokaz it's funny how you think i'm smurfing yo ass but i haven't played in the last few days  |
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