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Katusha
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FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 05:05:21 pm »
I think the generic 3-man set-up MG "just" with cloak is pretty boring. What I was expecting was something similar to the old support grens, a 3 man team with an MG34, ambush, and about 30 cal suppression!
Plus an MG in ambush is kinda funky, it won't fire by itself at long range, and sometimes if you click on the squad you want to fire on, it resets the MG.
Another option is to add an MG34 upgrade to riflenades and G43s. This would just be purchaseable on normal FSJ, but this would make them pretty freaking strong! LMG with ambush...... mmmmmm, I've had vanilla falls that picked up a BAR get like 30 kills, it's pretty epic.
I really hope you guys are with me on the thought that the current MG-34 is boring, and too similar to other MG's. I want some flavor!
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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Quote from: Katusha on September 03, 2011, 05:05:21 pm
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Katusha
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Quote from: RoyalHants on September 03, 2011, 05:06:58 pm
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TheVolskinator
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 05:10:36 pm »
I support the idea. LMG34 squad, has a Suppressing Fire ability. Possibly fires on the move or something to that effect to give it a little more "umph".
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LeoPhone
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 05:11:46 pm »
seems we just have to change the mg34 so it autofires on inf from cloak
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Katusha
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 05:14:16 pm »
Final decision is for you guys, but I'm saying I'm against another generic 3-man mg team..
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 05:18:47 pm »
Quote from: Katusha on September 03, 2011, 05:14:16 pm
Final decision is for you guys, but I'm saying I'm against another generic 3-man mg team..
Well, LMG fallchrims is pretty generic too.
There is a limit to how how creative you can really be here.
Unless you want lazer MG or some other shit.
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:10:55 pm »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on September 03, 2011, 05:18:47 pm
Unless you want lazer MG or some other shit.
Laser armed Stormtroopers, call them terminator teams
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:16:53 pm »
Quote from: nikomas on September 03, 2011, 06:10:55 pm
Laser armed Stormtroopers, call them terminator teams
Haven't watched Star Wars?
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spinn72
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:25:48 pm »
MG34 should be specifically for SE. I don't see why 2/3 PE factions have HMG's when the whole point of PE is to be mobile and lack support weapons.
Giving luft a moving MG34 is tricky -- it'd either be horribly UP so that people will treat them like old support grens, or it will be horribly OP. It's hard to balance a unit when doctrine buffs give it cloak & ambush, and +33% acc ON EVERY INFANTRY SQUAD.
MG34 with +33% acc is just.. lol
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CrazyWR
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:36:26 pm »
yea pretty sure the falls mg is already plenty good at what it does...
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:36:52 pm »
ambush bonus can be customized. I think it only gives extra penetration on fsj tankbusters for example
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Katusha
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:48:04 pm »
You guys are ruining any chances of seeing the epic lmg icon on top of falls!!!!
Anyways, yes the mg-34 is REALLY good at what it does, but it's boring, and the MG-34 was mostly used with a bipod as a light machine gun (FUCK YEAH FOR REALISM ARGUMENT)
In other words, I want the MG-34 to be mobile
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TheVolskinator
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 06:50:11 pm »
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL REALISM!
STOP COMPARING EIR TO REAL LIFE!
/karma's a bitch. Eat what you serve, kat.
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AmPM
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 07:28:40 pm »
Quote from: Katusha on September 03, 2011, 06:48:04 pm
You guys are ruining any chances of seeing the epic lmg icon on top of falls!!!!
Anyways, yes the mg-34 is REALLY good at what it does, but it's boring, and the MG-34 was mostly used with a bipod as a light machine gun (FUCK YEAH FOR REALISM ARGUMENT)
In other words, I want the MG-34 to be mobile
The MG34 was much rarer than the MG42 by this point in the war. MG42 was stamped and easy to make. Just make it a dual LMG squad that can deploy to gain extra suppression, to deploy it takes a couple seconds and they are limited to the cone of fire they are placed in. Woo.
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 07:34:00 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on September 03, 2011, 07:28:40 pm
The MG34 was much rarer than the MG42 by this point in the war. MG42 was stamped and easy to make. Just make it a dual LMG squad that can deploy to gain extra suppression, to deploy it takes a couple seconds and they are limited to the cone of fire they are placed in. Woo.
Aside from there being two firing weapons at a time, explain how that's different from the MG as it is?
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TheVolskinator
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 07:35:01 pm »
Sounds like a Grensquad with dual LMGs and Fal cloak. Dont need it, seems like FG42s...but, 2 of them that dont shoot on the move. Single buffed LMG, or just fix the current bugged HMG.
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AmPM
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 09:43:20 pm »
Quote from: Vermillion_Hawk on September 03, 2011, 07:34:00 pm
Aside from there being two firing weapons at a time, explain how that's different from the MG as it is?
It's not a mobile guy with an HMG? I don't think PE should have an HMG but someone was suggesting a mobile HMG be made.
Better to make a standard PE squad with LMG/dual LMG and have them deploy for extra suppression/range but have a set cone of fire.
AKA, you can move with it, and if need be set it up for suppression in a few seconds.
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Tymathee
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 10:22:40 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on September 03, 2011, 07:28:40 pm
The MG34 was much rarer than the MG42 by this point in the war. MG42 was stamped and easy to make. Just make it a dual LMG squad that can deploy to gain extra suppression, to deploy it takes a couple seconds and they are limited to the cone of fire they are placed in. Woo.
lol and king tigers and pershings and calliopes and jagdtigers were pretty dang rare too -_-
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AmPM
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Re: FSJ MG34 rework?
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September 03, 2011, 11:13:01 pm »
Yea, at least the Jadgtiger and KT saw action on a regular basis. The Pershing is just WTF is this even here for?
But making it a unique unit instead of "lol, we're lazy, PE gets an HMG since we can't think of something" would be awesome. Each faction should be pretty unique and try NOT to have copies of other factions units.
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