Stug (Panzer Aces)

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[nikomas]

So, I've been rolling with a Stug/Stuh blitz company lately, and I'm just wondering here if they might be a bit to, well, cheap.
I've been trying to build a medium armor company and for a while I ran a Pz4/tiger split, then a Stuh/Pz4...

So anyway, now I'm running a StuG/StuH company with double repair kits and panzer aces for direct buffs. To start with I'll get 8 of these, all with double repair kits, skirts and MG's. When it goes into mid-late game you can run 3 on field and still have room for 3 infantry squads, and with good micro the repairs will keep them alive for a while.

Combine Panzer aces with their MG's and you've got additional sight range and infantry raping accuracy, personally I'd think that infantry would have an easier time taking out assault guns but their top MG's really rips em to shreds, and suppresses inf in seconds if you've got 2 of them... and face it, you'll probably have 3.

I've been thinking of getting dual T3's to make them worse but there is no way BH is wroth giving up

Maybe I'm just not giving my play enough credit, a scenario I'd be perfectly fine with ( ) but any opinions on this?

[Audemed]

Have you beaten me with it? If yes, OP OP OP NERF.

If not, it's fine lolz.

[Tymathee]

no, it is pretty nasty i agree. it's a good strat and how i once tried to tell someone to use it b4.

[smurfORnot]

compare it to hellcat,it around the same price,you will have better mg for supression,but they both kill inf equally well,are more or less fragile the same but hellcat is much better vs tanks.

[DarkSoldierX]

Nothing wrong with stug.

Stug is a beautiful non-turreted tank that is greatly rewarded through good micro, but is still defeatable. A very good trait.

But I do believe StuH(and 95mm crom too) should have there prices go back up by 20 fuel. They are a bit cheap.

[BigDick]

no, it is pretty nasty i agree. it's a good strat and how i once tried to tell someone to use it b4.

+1 OP needs nerf

suggestion: fuel of stug ->300 skirts 60 and mg 150 mun
panzer aces T4

u agree? i bet so

[3rdCondor]

Change elite armor t4 to panzer aces and add a new tier 3

Follow with a price increase for the stug

thoughts?

[EIRRMod]

If AmPM isnt running a Stug company, then its not OP.

Probably UP for the same reason tbfh....

[Tymathee]

+1 OP needs nerf

suggestion: fuel of stug ->300 skirts 60 and mg 150 mun
panzer aces T4

u agree? i bet so

llol wut? i said it was a good strat. I suck with stugs but i knew how well it would work so i suggested it someone who I knew was good with stugs smh.  i didn't say it was OP at all, just a nasty strat lol. I dont think it needs any price changes.

[AmPM]

If AmPM isnt running a Stug company, then its not OP.

Probably UP for the same reason tbfh....

This is true. It's an easily countered combo... I like to call this rare and unique counter, dedicated AT assets.

ATG + M18 makes for sad STuGs and costs less, allowing you to field WTFPWN BARrofls.

[nikomas]

This is true. It's an easily countered combo... I like to call this rare and unique counter, dedicated AT assets.

ATG + M18 makes for sad STuGs and costs less, allowing you to field WTFPWN BARrofls.

I raise you ATG's and elite storms?

[TheVolskinator]

Doesnt work as well when you throw StuHs into the mix. Panzer aces on that shit negates infantry most of the time, and can allah charge your atg(s) if there's two of them. Shreck storms eat the TD(s) and so on...

Not impossible to counter, just fucking hard as hell.

[nikomas]

And can allah charge your atg(s) if there's two of them.

To be honest, this is the best part about stug's and stuh's thou, the expandability, now that is not to be changed, EVER  

[AmPM]

I raise you ATG's and elite storms?

I raise you jeeps and offmaps. =) I mean you can play that game all day, in the end, it comes down to the players and their skills. Meaning, it's balanced.

[Audemed]

Jeeps don't kill storms, they just find them. Then storms kill the jeep. Then storms kill your AT.

[AmPM]

Storms kill jeep, any number of units kill storms.

[smurfORnot]

what happens when there is cct around who can see storms in FOW,and you just land arty right on their heads and blow them to pieces or any odther things,knowing where exactly they are,hmm?