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[MorkaandBorka]

Ok stop talking about libya, make your own thread jesus.

[Poppi]

Is that seriously the first thing that came to your mind? You see all these horrors and you act like fucking five year old? What is wrong with you?

lol. You saw a vagina and all you can think about is these horrors? Whats is wrong with you?

[Atlanton]

1: The consequences of illegal substance abuse. By now you probably already know the dangers of illegal substance abuse. Even if you use a drug that's not very harmful it 99% of the time leads to worse substance abuse like this drug for example.

Sorry... but this is is just not true.

That 99% gateway statistic aside, there is no greater "gateway drug" to substance abuse than alcohol, a legal substance. So let's not confuse what the government thinks is good for us with what medical professionals have proven through observation and study. Legality has nothing to do with the danger of a substance, otherwise Permonid would have never been approved in the first place.

[Malgoroth]

Mother of God. I've personally seen/interacted with meth and crack junkies, and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse I see something like this.

I will never understand why people do drugs that serious to begin with when they know that, at the very least, they run the risk of becoming addicted, or at worst they end up dead; not to mention all the shit in between (prison, disease, loss of job/friends/family), but when one of the risks is you straight up rot to pieces... Holy fuckin' jesus shit.

Some of the more callous members of society might say that they don't care, and that the junkies deserve it for being stupid... but I can't help but feel so damn bad for these people.     

[Sachaztan]

Mother of God. I've personally seen/interacted with meth and crack junkies, and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse I see something like this.

I will never understand why people do drugs that serious to begin with when they know that, at the very least, they run the risk of becoming addicted, or at worst they end up dead; not to mention all the shit in between (prison, disease, loss of job/friends/family), but when one of the risks is you straight up rot to pieces... Holy fuckin' jesus shit.

Some of the more callous members of society might say that they don't care, and that the junkies deserve it for being stupid... but I can't help but feel so damn bad for these people.     

Well smoking tastes like rotten shit the first time you try it, it only provides a tiny tiny high and is addicting. People know this but still doesn't stop them from forcing enough enough cigarrate smoke into their lungs to get them addicted.

It's like weed but without the high, I mean wtf is the point of that drug?

[smurfORnot]

smoking is not drug.
helps you a bit with stress or when you feel shitty,dunno why,but it does.

[Sachaztan]

Sorry... but this is is just not true.

That 99% gateway statistic aside, there is no greater "gateway drug" to substance abuse than alcohol, a legal substance. So let's not confuse what the government thinks is good for us with what medical professionals have proven through observation and study. Legality has nothing to do with the danger of a substance, otherwise Permonid would have never been approved in the first place.

There are plenty of examples of legality being far detached from the reality of the drug.

Tobacco and Alcohol would have never been legal if they were released on the market today but because of their historical connection to western society they are legal.

The UK is a prime example of random drug legislation. It's like they put up a bunch of classification signs on a dartboard and then played darts to see how they would class the drugs.

I mean holy fucking shit they put Ecstacy and LSD in the same category as Heroin!?

[Sachaztan]

smoking is not drug.
helps you a bit with stress or when you feel shitty,dunno why,but it does.

Wow, you better look up the definition of what a drug is cuz you have no idea.

[PonySlaystation]

Sorry... but this is is just not true.

That 99% gateway statistic aside, there is no greater "gateway drug" to substance abuse than alcohol, a legal substance. So let's not confuse what the government thinks is good for us with what medical professionals have proven through observation and study. Legality has nothing to do with the danger of a substance, otherwise Permonid would have never been approved in the first place.

There is a HUGE difference between illegal and legal substance abuse when it comes to them being a gateway to more dangerous drugs. Mary Jane for example is not a very dangerous drug but if you buy some then you have the connections to move to the next step, which is a bit different from Alcohol. Obviously the guy selling you alcohol is probably not going to say "hey, you like alcohol? wanna buy some heroin?" No, I don't think he's gonna say that.

There is a connection between people using alcohol regularly and later taking drugs compared to people not using alcohol at all. But the answer to that is pretty simple as well. A guy who never drinks alcohol is not going to have the same chances to meet up with the wrong crowd, he's probably gonna sit home and play scrabble.

[Sachaztan]

There is a HUGE difference between illegal and legal substance abuse when it comes to them being a gateway to more dangerous drugs. Mary Jane for example is not a very dangerous drug but if you buy some then you have the connections to move to the next step, which is a bit different from Alcohol. Obviously the guy selling you alcohol is probably not going to say "hey, you like alcohol? wanna buy some heroin?" No, I don't think he's gonna say that.

There is a connection between people using alcohol regularly and later taking drugs compared to people not using alcohol at all. But the answer to that is pretty simple as well. A guy who never drinks alcohol is not going to have the same chances to meet up with the wrong crowd, he's probably gonna sit home and play scrabble.

Yes, many of the dangers about illegal drugs is the fact that they are illegal and not the drug itself. MJ is a good example of this. This is one of the greatest arguments for legalising that particular drug.

[tank130]

Often alcohol impairs our judgement and lowers our inhibitions. This opens the door to try other substances we would not normally experiment with.

I have no idea if anyone has done a study on this; but my years of experience tells me that people seldom ever try a new drug with out having had a few drinks first. Once they know the drug and use it, they may not need the alcohol.

[3rdCondor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA&ob=av3e

[Atlanton]

There is a HUGE difference between illegal and legal substance abuse when it comes to them being a gateway to more dangerous drugs. Mary Jane for example is not a very dangerous drug but if you buy some then you have the connections to move to the next step, which is a bit different from Alcohol. Obviously the guy selling you alcohol is probably not going to say "hey, you like alcohol? wanna buy some heroin?" No, I don't think he's gonna say that.

There is a connection between people using alcohol regularly and later taking drugs compared to people not using alcohol at all. But the answer to that is pretty simple as well. A guy who never drinks alcohol is not going to have the same chances to meet up with the wrong crowd, he's probably gonna sit home and play scrabble.

You're right. Things that have to be purchased illegally will probably have some hazardous risks compared to something purchased legally. However, that's still not a justification for whether you should put it into your body... because again, if you go to your pharmacy and think it's totally awesome--in fact, your doctor probably was heavily encouraging--to get that FDA-approved cholesterol-reducing medication, only to find out that that the drug to prevent giving you heart attack gives you a heart attack. It has happened and it will continue to happen.

You, the government, and a large percentage of the population mistake correlation for causation when it comes to danger of drugs, and thus more people are misinformed, imprisoned, and killed because of it. Instead, we continue to pursue the failing War on Drugs (and Addicts), when we could actually be improving the situation. As Sachaztan said, your argument only reinforces the need to decriminalize illegal substances.

[Malgoroth]

Well smoking tastes like rotten shit the first time you try it, it only provides a tiny tiny high and is addicting. People know this but still doesn't stop them from forcing enough enough cigarrate smoke into their lungs to get them addicted.

It's like weed but without the high, I mean wtf is the point of that drug?

It depends. Someone who hasn't been around many people who smoke might find it gross on their first try, but someone who has been around cigarette smokers all their life (like me. My dad chain smoked like a beast when I was a wee lad) won't.

Like smurf said, it helps with stress, it's relaxing, all the cool kids are doing it, don't you want to be cool? But primarily, and this is the hardest part about quitting (according to people I know who have quit) is that it just gives you something to do. Sounds weird... but it's like a weird muscle memory thing... you get in the car, first thing you do is light one up. Downtime between classes, first thing you do is light one up. Writers block on an essay, light one up. Pre EiR match, light one up. Post EiR match, light one up. 

[Dnicee]

Like smurf said, it helps with stress, it's relaxing, all the cool kids are doing it, don't you want to be cool? But primarily, and this is the hardest part about quitting (according to people I know who have quit) is that it just gives you something to do. Sounds weird... but it's like a weird muscle memory thing... you get in the car, first thing you do is light one up. Downtime between classes, first thing you do is light one up. Writers block on an essay, light one up. Pre EiR match, light one up. Post EiR match, light one up. 

This is soooo true! I just stopped a while back, and this is soo god  damn true word for word!

[Demon767]

You know how you can replace that habit, form another habit.

you get in the car, first thing you do is fap. Downtime between classes, first thing you do is fap. Writers block on an essay, fap. Pre EiR match, fap. Post EiR match, fap.  

im being a lil srs

invest in an ipod and replace lighting one up with putting earphones in.

[smurfORnot]

well,strange is that I rarely smoke in other smokers company. 90% of the time when I smoke is when I am alone,dunno why,I just like to take those 7-8 with myself and think about things. When I have good day I smoke around 2 cigarettes per day,when I feel shitty,usually about my ex,lol,I can smoke around 8-15. Sad thing is,I didnt smoke my whole life,only started around year and a half ago,cuz first break up with ex was ugly,and since whole relationship after that was forward and backward,fucking stressful period for me,I just continued 

[PonySlaystation]

your argument only reinforces the need to decriminalize illegal substances.

What? How can you draw that conclusion based on what I have said? What are you? an anarchist? "government bad, drugs good". That is basically all you have said.

Obviously illegal substances should not be decriminalized because even if they aren't deadly harmful they still have negative effects.

Criminalizing alcohol is very difficult since it's been in our culture for so long. The short term effects would be devastating and the long term "positive" effects would be visible two or three generations later.

[Sachaztan]

What? How can you draw that conclusion based on what I have said? What are you? an anarchist? "government bad, drugs good". That is basically all you have said.

Obviously illegal substances should not be decriminalized because even if they aren't deadly harmful they still have negative effects.

Criminalizing alcohol is very difficult since it's been in our culture for so long. The short term effects would be devastating and the long term "positive" effects would be visible two or three generations later.

tbh I hope you are trolling and not being an idiot.