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[EliteGren]

Shreck

Shreck is not proper german

[PonySlaystation]

IT IS SPELT "SHRECK"

No u, Shrek is a film character.

[tank130]

and schrecks have a 0.7 dmg modifier vs m8 armor. and a 0.85 accuracy multiplier. and a 0.8 moving accuracy multiplier

which means that on average you will need 5.6 schrecks to kill a chaffee (with short range accuracy multiplier)
math: 400/(150x0.7x0.85x0.8 )=5.6  
a sherman needs 4.8 schrecks on average
math: 636/(150x0.88)=4.8

and the chaffee is cheaper, faster, smaller(better pathing, smaller coll box vs schrecks), and has 45 sight. which means you can kite schrecks like its childsplay.

EXCELLENT - it would really suck if we gave a reward unit that was not a worthy REWARD

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Yo i heard you liked reward units so i gave you a nashhorn.
 
That unit is really shit from what i have seen.

[LeoPhone]

EXCELLENT - it would really suck if we gave a reward unit that was not a worthy REWARD

there is a difference between reward and retard

[Unkn0wn]

Just because it's a reward unit and will be 'rare' doesn't mean it can or should be in any way overpowered indeed. If the balance team finds this unit out of whack, it will be addressed.

[TheVolskinator]

Its an LV. Get a panther/P4 out and watch the QQ begin. Its not nearly as easy to keep alive as some of the other units out there (super ost, ace tiger (troll companies notwithstanding), nashorn, pii, all the reward inf, the reward atg, jagdpanzers, jagdtiger). I say leave it as is.

[Contaminator]

and schrecks have a 0.7 dmg modifier vs m8 armor. and a 0.85 accuracy multiplier. and a 0.8 moving accuracy multiplier

which means that on average you will need 5.6 schrecks to kill a chaffee (with short range accuracy multiplier)
math: 400/(150x0.7x0.85x0.8 )=5.6 
a sherman needs 4.8 schrecks on average
math: 636/(150x0.88)=4.8

and the chaffee is cheaper, faster, smaller(better pathing, smaller coll box vs schrecks), and has 45 sight. which means you can kite schrecks like its childsplay.

WAIT WAIT WAIT... there is a unit that doesnt get instaloled by shrecks?!?! its nice to see that for once the Geraman solution isnt: oh shit... hmm... wait for it... wait for it... brilliance coming... thats right add more shrecks!!!!!!

If anything its helping axis players have to think outside the box involving AT inf and maybe not going " hay diddle diddle straight up the middle" like they often do. And like it has already been said... its going to be a rare reward unit not something seen all over the place. so calm down and just accept that for now there will be more of them. For pete's sake at least fighting a crap ton of them now will help you know how to fight them later.

[Demon767]

WAIT WAIT WAIT... there is a unit that doesnt get instaloled by shrecks?!?! its nice to see that for once the Geraman solution isnt: oh shit... hmm... wait for it... wait for it... brilliance coming... thats right add more shrecks!!!!!!

Don't know if stupid or just trolling.

[nikomas]

Hahaha, Sure, I wonder how you would feel about a "Prototype Panther mk.II" with an 88 on it as a reward unit... It's supposed to be better for about the same cost, right? 

[AmPM]

Indeed, just make the Nashorn the cost of a STuG, since it's armor will be crap, but give it the Jadgpanther gun with 60 range, 75 range when locked down.

Panther II would be nice as well, and while we are at it, how about Flammpanzer III's so we can rofl flamethrower things too!

Reward units need to be balanced within the game as well, maybe 10%-15% better than stock, but thats it.

[TheVolskinator]

Mind you, the Chaffee costs MORE then a sherman (at least in manpower) and is only 2/3 as survivable. YES its a tet with a sherman gun on it, but its a SHERMAN GUN. Its not going to powerfist your reward axis lolrape armor in the ass! Its just super-powerful versus infantry--one of 1001 units the americans have that is. The same could be said of BARs or M8s (neither of which is this powerful, or as expensive).

I say the cost justifies the unit. Or hell, if you want to nerf it give it the old Mk IV churhill 6pdr gun and watch them dissapear from the leaderboards... 

[Poppi]

maybe decrease sight would help balance it?
i dont know never touched the thing. but it is nice to have  a US vehicle that laughs at shrek teams while retreating instead of being their bitch. ( do t17s count?)

[AmPM]

Remove Commander upgrade, change to 10 pop.

Chaffee is super effective.

[Demon767]

Marines destroy ALL german infsntry

Chaffer destroy all German AT assets

unbalanced, fix plox

[Tymathee]

lol @ Lionel...

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[Dnicee]

Its an LV. Get a panther/P4 out and watch the QQ begin. Its not nearly as easy to keep alive as some of the other units out there (super ost, ace tiger (troll companies notwithstanding), nashorn, pii, all the reward inf, the reward atg, jagdpanzers, jagdtiger). I say leave it as is.

lol?

You think the nashorn is easy to keep alive? I dont think you have seen the nashorn tbh.

So you dont mind the super ostwind staying the way it is?

I'd say tiger ace need small buff, super ostwind a nerf, cheffe a nerf and nashorn a small buff.

Have yet to try the rest of the allied reward units.

[Smokaz]

Tiger ace aint even linked up with doctrine abilities, super ghey. It should be the same for all reward units, they should all be linked up to doctrine abilities that should effect them or none of them should.

[DarkSoldierX]

Tiger ace aint even linked up with doctrine abilities, super ghey. It should be the same for all reward units, they should all be linked up to doctrine abilities that should effect them or none of them should.

Yes it is.

And the idea is that they are all linked up. The way you type makes me think you think that the devs biased and made only a select few use docs.

[Tymathee]

well its not that they're biased, just some of them aren't linked up all the way. like i dont think the wepse gets any of the Def or SE arty buffs.