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[nikomas]

Not so much of a balance point, but given how durable these get under an armor player I want them rebranded as Light Tanks 

Cause hell, 4 shreck hits to kill a T4 one is more than most light tanks take   

(Somehow, my first vet 3 allied unit to survive beyond 2 games is a T17, and it's survived 88, shrecks and an ostwind so far, bless it)

[aeroblade56]

i believe the t17 is a medium tank and you almost pay the same for a ostwind. i enjoy the t17 its great for stray infantry. other then that it sucks

[NightRain]

It is still better than a puma

[nikomas]

Hehehe, my 4 of them just racked up half my kills last game, what the heck are you talking about, they be great!
cheap repairs to...

[tank130]

Excellent idea. Change it to a light tank designation and watch all the QQ because it sucks as a light tank. Then the requests to buff it start rolling in because it is now a light tank.........

/ sarcasm

but seriously, I think it fits perfect right where it is tbh.

[TheArea]

Its better than an Inf Doc T4 buffed croc. 

[Poppi]

Hehehe, my 4 of them just racked up half my kills last game, what the heck are you talking about, they be great!
cheap repairs to...

sooo many post how bad they are.

I used to run t17 company. I liked them just enough

Things that make them bad as is and dont need a nerf. Acc is all over the place. Actually i dont think they make good defensive weapons. As in stormies and KCH arent threatened by it just run past it. 120 fu. Horrilbe horrible pen even against HT.

[aeroblade56]

Yeah im not to happy about the penetration it does, even with kch it still takes well over 9 shots to kill them just cause the damn thing misses so much. its a beast at killing newbewelfers.

[nikomas]

Excellent idea. Change it to a light tank designation and watch all the QQ because it sucks as a light tank. Then the requests to buff it start rolling in because it is now a light tank.........

/ sarcasm

but seriously, I think it fits perfect right where it is tbh.

HOW DID YOU FIGURE IT OUT, MY PLANS ARE RUINED!!! 

[Unkn0wn]

I agree with tank, I think it fills a certain niche quite well. (And in the right hands it's an amazing unit)

What do you mean with rebranding them as a light tank? What difference does that make? Do you mean counting them towards the armour instead of light vehicle pool?

[Tymathee]

just because someone maximises the effectiveness of a unit doesn't mean it should be changed.

[nikomas]

I agree with tank, I think it fills a certain niche quite well. (And in the right hands it's an amazing unit)
What do you mean with rebranding them as a light tank? What difference does that make? Do you mean counting them towards the armour instead of light vehicle pool?

There is no real logic behind it to be honest, it's just what I feel the role of the vehicle is...
Rather, it's durability and handling makes it feel more like a light tank to me rather than an armored car to me, still, that was just something lighthearted...

And a reacton to having the thing survive shreck barrages, alternativly several shots more from AT than I figure it should handle, even with the armor coy buffs... Hence me thinking of it like a tank instead of an LV, that's sorta what I meant.

Really thou, it's bullshit and I know it 

Short version... I put them under AT fire and I expect them to survive it. Often they do and I dont expect any other "Vehicle" to survive any AT fire at all.

[Tymathee]

btw all armor has treads and the t-17 doesn't have treads.

the only "tank" that's classified as a vehicle is the Stuart. so theres no justification to move the t-17 to armor.