Stens vs Heroic/soldier armor

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[CafeMilani]

yeah, why are sten mandos not super good against ANY kind of inf but only MOST kind of inf.
why do we have different armor types anyway.  

[Valexandes]

A commando sten squad will consistently get ripped apart by falls in any situation where neither player is being a complete retard.

Stens do great against a number of things and it's ok if they aren't amazing against everything but just how bad they are against fg42 falls and kch should be remedied.

[tank130]

why do we have different armor types anyway.  

You may be sarcastic.... I am not sure?

If you are not; with out different types of armor I think it would be too mirrored.

[Tymathee]

so stens are great against anything except "elite" infantry. why is this a problem?

If you know this, change your style, not the game.

tbh, it seems vcoh balanced it like this.

allied smgs > axis mainline infantry
axis close range > allied elite inf

there's a balance here, its just not rock, paper, scissors.

[Valexandes]

I don't want commando stens to rape Falls in anyway but currently the falls will completely destroy them.
Commandos should do more against falls than they currently do. Not win every time or maybe not even win half the time but do somewhat better than currently.

if the modifier is 0.5 maybe make it 0.65.

[Tymathee]

grenades? nades rape soldier and elite armor.

[Audemed]

I believe what you mean is grenades are UNAFFECTED by armor types....

[Tymathee]

I believe what you mean is grenades are UNAFFECTED by armor types....

no, grenades do extra dmg vs different armor types.

Base - 60
vs heroic x 1.25, meaning it will do 80 dmg.

same 1.0 modifier vs soldier but they have 60 health...

they also do 2x dmg vs garrison, and 1.5 acc, 2x and 1.25 supp vs neg cover,

[Smokaz]

Go check the stiehlgranate before you generalize how ami nade does.

[Zamochit]

Go check the stiehlgranate before you generalize how ami nade does.

it's the same but can be thrown farther and does less damage, everybody knows that.

[Smokaz]

I need to save some replays of those games where tommies get a stiehl on their face and nothing happens.

[Tymathee]

and i've seen axis get pinapples to the face and nothing happens. sometimes if they are in cover, or have accuracy modifiers you'll get a miss. there's a reason why sandbags help protect 88's from artillery fire.

nade in front of cover - miss
nade behind cover - hit