EIRRMod
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 03:47:38 pm » |
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Moving to EIRR related.
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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| johnnyaustin124
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2012, 06:42:17 pm » |
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Axis def need some buffs.
If you need buffs you suck dick at eirr and should quit tbh. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 06:43:27 pm » |
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Also. Axis units are over powered but if the allies can push the axis off the map then the allies win.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2012, 06:49:05 pm » |
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Axis units (particularily Wehrmacht) will always be inherently stronger since they are still based off the Company of Heroes system with tech trees, and without significant balance changes they will remain as such.
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What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets.
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| panzerman
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2012, 07:16:13 pm » |
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eir is pretty damn balanced if you claim something is op probs means you suck or don't know how to counter...
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AmPM
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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2012, 07:25:37 pm » |
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Axis units (particularily Wehrmacht) will always be inherently stronger since they are still based off the Company of Heroes system with tech trees, and without significant balance changes they will remain as such.
A unit is not overpowered if it can be countered in a reasonable manner. 4 Man KCH? Easy counter of any armored vehicle. Tiger/Panther/KT/etc? ATGs, TDs, Stickies to keep them from rushing. Mortars/Support? Mortars, support, offmaps, rushes, smoke, etc. The only units that have issues right now are really medium tanks, and that is mostly that the P4 is not a good choice for cost effectiveness. |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2012, 07:31:12 pm » |
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The only units that have issues right now are really medium tanks, and that is mostly that the P4 is not a good choice for cost effectiveness.
i see what you did there. |
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You are welcome to your opinion.
You are also welcome to be wrong.
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| johnnyaustin124
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2012, 08:33:11 pm » |
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The only units that have issues right now are really medium tanks, and that is mostly that the P4 is not a good choice for cost effectiveness.
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Must suck with them cause i do well with them... well at least with blitz they are good
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Smokaz
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2012, 08:44:02 pm » |
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I dont really see AMPM in eirr that much, but I'd love for his TD's to meet my kt
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AmPM
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2012, 09:12:33 pm » |
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@ Johnny, they can be used, I used them with my current Blitz and they were OK, not good, not great, not terrible, just OK. Replaced with STuHs and Panthers. More effective and more MU available for other stuff. They don't work as well as Shermans for similar cost.
@ Aeroblade, I play Allies a lot more than Axis. The P4 is not a good choice right now in comparison to the other units that can be taken and against the things it is required to fight.
@ Smokaz, I promise you I can shut your KT down with similar Pop level of AT assets. The KT is a fun tank, but not super effective.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2012, 09:25:32 pm » |
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It is fucking exellent vs americans, and you'll have fun with the -15% received penetration from the bot t3
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| panzerman
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2012, 01:25:19 am » |
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does that actually make a noticable difference?
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2012, 01:41:35 am » |
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on something that bounces shit from rear yes.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2012, 08:37:44 am » |
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p4 just got a price buff...and we stil say its not cost effective? i think its 220 fuel now.
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"I want proof!"
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Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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| panzerman
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2012, 08:42:20 am » |
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but you still have to pay fuel for skirts which is 30 i think...
none the less i find p4 spam fun and can work as long as you have lots of paks/shreks/nija storms.
but still no where near as efficient as medium Armour coys of the allied side.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2012, 08:48:07 am » |
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you dont HAVE to pay for skirts. Its only needed if you think you'll go up against allied hand held at, as it takes off 25% dmg and pen and 10% dmg vs shermans.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2012, 11:13:01 am » |
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but you still have to pay fuel for skirts which is 30 i think...
none the less i find p4 spam fun and can work as long as you have lots of paks/shreks/nija storms.
but still no where near as efficient as medium Armour coys of the allied side.
its only effective because average axis bring like 40 INF. so between 5 shermans its not alot But aver allies brings 80 which between 4-6 P4 is a nice little amount. |
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Uglysori
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2012, 03:21:26 pm » |
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you dont HAVE to pay for skirts. Its only needed if you think you'll go up against allied hand held at, as it takes off 25% dmg and pen and 10% dmg vs shermans.
Skirts are actually a 10% dmg reduction vs alot of vehicles if i recall not just shermans. The only thing that doesn't get the 10% dmg reduction if I recall was ATGs, TDs and something like tets but I am not at home to check Corsix. Is that worth the fuel? Depends. Skirts on the IST is probably more of a must buy than for the regular P4 because the IST often has to be in range of handheld AT. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2012, 03:24:20 pm » |
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sori, back in your cage.
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| Masacree
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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2012, 03:27:36 pm » |
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If you need buffs you suck dick at eirr and should quit tbh.
Dude, I don't need buffs. I'm OP as is. |
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I like how this forum in turn brings out the worst in anyone
To err is human, to eirr is retard
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