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aeroblade56 Offline
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« on: June 26, 2012, 06:01:08 pm »

Panthers Op plz nerf.

They hit my infantry, they kill my tanks, they crush my menz, They bounce my atgs.

Without Tank reapers i get very sad when a atg bounces 3-4 times. and AP rounds arent cost effective as the panther any competent player can move out of range after the first shot or how the Ap rounds to like a fake shot? then the real one.

With the recent reduction in storms cost to pool they seem to be roaming around alot more, since you can get elite armor(not yet) up to 3 bundle nades and at no cost to pool like before.

They even give pershing a hell of a hard time. Stickies damage their engines sure but with panthers you can kite easily infantry.

This of course is a biased view. But i feel like USA has a hard time early on dealing with panthers, m18s seem to bounce quite frequently even my m10s (if not backed up by storms or paks) Will only penetrate ounce before dying.


Also here is a video of how op they are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7q7lQIa8c
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kwiatekkek Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 06:08:17 pm »

rage posting much ?
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pqumsieh Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 06:10:42 pm »

Panther will be addressed next patcg
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 06:11:43 pm »

course it will.......
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 06:14:28 pm »

earl game means u dont have Panzer Ace doctrine unlock in blitz coy for panthers so they aint so good vs inf tbh
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 06:17:50 pm »

Stug spam waaaay gayer than early panther imo. I'm so surprised ppl don't do that any more than like... spartan and me.

ADDED: That is pretty retarded tho with the panther.
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 07:49:10 pm »

Yes kwia i do rage post, but it wasnt as much rage as much as it was disappointing since the last 10 games people have been using 3 panthers even tenebrous uses 3 panthers with his PE.

Their is no reason to not use a panther.

EDIT: stug spam is aggravating as well but not unbeatable since fireflys and TD peirce them enough of course you can bring tons but my firefly can kill 5-6 without using a repair
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 08:21:09 pm »

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ALLiDOisWIN Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 08:43:47 pm »

the thing is... the counters to axis heavies are, stickies, mines, AP atgs, 17 pounders, ffs, well timed m10 attack, atgs with zooks, rrs + smoke. yeah its BS they can have 3 panthers and shit, but there are counters like there are to everything else.
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I2ay Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 09:20:58 pm »

Guys who cares about Panther balance issues. The REAL issue is still the Hetzer.
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=21656.0 (Proof of how OP it is)
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 09:25:35 pm »

yea panther is fine except effectiveness vs infantry and mounted mg suppression
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 09:29:23 pm »

It does help to load up on vet 2 stickies. Usually does fine if they charge with half health or something, if not the skirts might save em and then the cat is out of the bag.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2012, 10:30:30 pm »

Panther is fine, I play US infantry and I have never used AP rounds on ATGs and I have zero issues with panthers.  If he tries to run you over, BRING HANDHELD AT.  Not that hard.  If you're doing bare rifles or rifle bars, you should get crushed by panthers.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 10:42:24 pm »

Panthers can be annoying - but I don't really see any real balance issue with them. 2 Panthers SHOULD defeat a pershing easy-peasy. It's 28 popcap and 900 FU (no skirts) of hard AT taking on a singular tank. I'd imagine 3 upgun hotchkisses would do a similar number on the persh, except for far cheaper.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 11:09:20 pm »

Nerfing panthers is probably one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Can we stop nerfing units just because they are "hard" to fight?

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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 12:31:06 am »

nerfing panthers AI capabilities is not a bad idea...don't be stupid wind.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2012, 01:19:19 am »

Stug spam waaaay gayer than early panther imo. I'm so surprised ppl don't do that any more than like... spartan and me.

ADDED: That is pretty retarded tho with the panther.

I do.

nerfing panthers is bad.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2012, 01:43:56 am »

Its funny  how im realy sucky with allies, tho  i  never  had  problems  with panthers  companys.
use  hold fire on your atgs !
lure  the panther  with an easy  kill
US - flank stikies , atgs ..
Brits - button, FF, 17pdr, 6pdr, piats ....

finish it of  with an offmap, Done!

Play smart, dont  just suicide your shit.


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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 01:47:50 am »

finish it of  with an offmap, Done!
And if you're RE and the only off map you get drops smoke?
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 02:03:28 am »

lol
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