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Sachaztan
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"Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 03:56:44 pm »
Just in case anyone is unaware of some of the monstrous acts CIA has committed
Also, since no one has ever had to pay for these crimes the US government as a whole is just as guilty as the CIA. This in turn means that the entire US people is to a lesser extent guilty for barely lifting a finger against this. I mean, Oliver North even has a show on fox news!
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:10:28 pm »
These aren't exactly secrets.
But news flash, take a look at all great powers in history and you will see a pattern. Where power comes into play, morals quickly go out the window.
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Sachaztan
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:14:22 pm »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on July 13, 2012, 04:10:28 pm
These aren't exactly secrets.
But news flash, take a look at all great powers in history and you will see a pattern. Where power comes into play, morals quickly go out the window.
That doesn't justify it in any way.
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:14:44 pm »
Well this isn't exactly recent news. The CIA has always been known as the intelligence agency the most steeped in underworld activities. The only reason they still exist is because international organizations can do nothing about it and America adheres to the antique Roman policy of "panem et circenses", keeping its own citizens ignorant or apathetic about such affairs.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:16:07 pm »
Quote from: Sachaztan on July 13, 2012, 04:14:22 pm
That doesn't justify it in any way.
I'm not trying to justify it, merely putting it into context. The EU (the institution, not the individual member states) is about the closest you will get to a 'righteous' great power. But that's only really because it possesses no significant military and political power.
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Sachaztan
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July 13, 2012, 04:19:26 pm »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on July 13, 2012, 04:16:07 pm
I'm not trying to justify it, merely putting it into context. The EU (the institution, not the individual member states) is about the closest you will get to a 'righteous' great power. But that's only really because it possesses no significant military and political power.
I'm not really sure why you are saying this.
imao it doesn't really matter at all.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:26:23 pm »
Quote from: Vermillion_Hawk on July 13, 2012, 04:14:44 pm
Well this isn't exactly recent news. The CIA has always been known as the intelligence agency the most steeped in underworld activities.
Thats only because its probably the most inept of the intelligence agencies and has made a lot of really bad mistakes, im pretty sure all intelligence agencies are quite the same, just quieter about it
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 04:46:18 pm »
Lol find me an intelligence agent of a 1st world or even 2nd world country that isn't either "inept" (which btw they prefer you think that way of them) or corrupt in someway and I'll show you a failing country.
the fact is, power corrupts, i dont care who you are, if you have enough power, you will eventually do what you want with what you've got.
even if you are perfect, someone will find you are immoral. Moral values these days seem to be more flexible than absolute, so i really dont care, this whole country is ging to crap.
when a whole political parties philosphy is to make the other look as bad as possible in order to win, they're fucked up.
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 13, 2012, 05:41:32 pm »
Quote from: Sachaztan on July 13, 2012, 03:56:44 pm
Just in case anyone is unaware of some of the monstrous acts CIA has committed
Also, since no one has ever had to pay for these crimes the US government as a whole is just as guilty as the CIA. This in turn means that the entire US people is to a lesser extent guilty for barely lifting a finger against this. I mean, Oliver North even has a show on fox news!
Where are you from?
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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Quote from: puddin on July 13, 2012, 05:41:32 pm
Where are you from?
He is clearly Russian.
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smurfORnot
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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Quote from: Tymathee on July 13, 2012, 04:46:18 pm
Lol find me an intelligence agent of a 1st world or even 2nd world country that isn't either "inept" (which btw they prefer you think that way of them) or corrupt in someway and I'll show you a failing country.
the fact is, power corrupts, i dont care who you are, if you have enough power, you will eventually do what you want with what you've got.
even if you are perfect, someone will find you are immoral. Moral values these days seem to be more flexible than absolute, so i really dont care, this whole country is ging to crap.
when a whole political parties philosphy is to make the other look as bad as possible in order to win, they're fucked up.
There are other powerful countries out there,actually,USA if slowly falling behind. But I rly haven't heard that other agencies have done messed up stuff like those of USA have,and interfered so much with others . CIA vs GESTAPO 1:0,lol
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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Doesn't matter what secret organization does what as long as they don't get caught or it's dug up later, it's really that simple.
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 14, 2012, 03:52:49 am »
CIA revealed, like published, they made up BS intel and paid off key witnesses to say BS so as to give bush a reason to invade Iraq.
Its funny b/c that news went sooo under the radar.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 14, 2012, 04:07:19 am »
Quote from: smurfORnot on July 14, 2012, 02:49:23 am
There are other powerful countries out there,actually,USA if slowly falling behind. But I rly haven't heard that other agencies have done messed up stuff like those of USA have,and interfered so much with others . CIA vs GESTAPO 1:0,lol
Are you fucking clueless? It would seem that you are. The Gestapo was fucking terrible organisation, how one could claim the CIA was somehow even worse is beyond me. But look at the Stasi, MI6, Mossad, etc. I don't think you can begin to comprehend how deep these organisation have gone in violating human rights and international law in achieving their objectives.
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Sachaztan
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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Quote from: Unkn0wn on July 14, 2012, 04:07:19 am
Are you fucking clueless? It would seem that you are. The Gestapo was fucking terrible organisation, how one could claim the CIA was somehow even worse is beyond me. But look at the Stasi, MI6, Mossad, etc. I don't think you can begin to comprehend how deep these organisation have gone in violating human rights and international law in achieving their objectives.
The point I am trying to make is since so much shit is known about what the CIA has done the American people should be in an OUTRAGE and demand the CIA to be dismantled and replaced by something new.
It is probable that other intelligence agencies have performed about as "evil" deeds as the CIA but that is just pure speculation and not part of the issue.
It is sickening that the US government can keep an organisation like the CIA under it's wings and at the same time make themselves out to be the white knights of the world.
Deposing democratically elected presidents and replacing them with dictators to protect "freedom" in the world? Operation Phoenix, that's a warcrime right there, which the US foreign department are so fond of complaining about when the perpetrators are other countries.
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smurfORnot
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 14, 2012, 05:25:00 am »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on July 14, 2012, 04:07:19 am
Are you fucking clueless? It would seem that you are. The Gestapo was fucking terrible organisation, how one could claim the CIA was somehow even worse is beyond me. But look at the Stasi, MI6, Mossad, etc. I don't think you can begin to comprehend how deep these organisation have gone in violating human rights and international law in achieving their objectives.
I am talking about what CIA has done with other countries. Yea,Gestapo was fucking evil,but they weren't messing with half world,installing warlords/puppet governments/dictators,starting wars etc. CIA has done much worse shit globally than Gestapo ever has.
+with laws being passed,shit you can to to people civil rights,surveillance etc etc. USA is becoming rly close to no need to mention state...except,they are wrapping this shit in nice paper + most Americans are just too stupid to see it or care.
I just laught at recent shit I saw FDA told people,and probably most people will believe this shit
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/aug2011_FDA-Says-Walnuts-Are-Illegal-Drugs_01.htm
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puddin
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Re: "Secrets of the CIA"
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July 14, 2012, 07:35:55 am »
Sach where are you from?
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Sachaztan
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Quote from: puddin on July 14, 2012, 07:35:55 am
Sach where are you from?
Why does it matter?
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puddin
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July 14, 2012, 08:27:17 am »
Because for someone who will not disclose what country of his orgin, to Claim that the american people are responable for being blind to a situation is pig headed and absurd.
Considering your not man enough to own up to your own countries mistakes, and short comings, I will refuse to accept anything you have to say.
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Vermillion_Hawk
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July 14, 2012, 08:31:25 am »
Quote from: puddin on July 14, 2012, 08:27:17 am
Because for someone who will not disclose what country of his orgin, to Claim that the american people are responable for being blind to a situation is pig headed and absurd.
Considering your not man enough to own up to your own countries mistakes, and short comings, I will refuse to accept anything you have to say.
Your comments on Americana never cease to amuse puddin.
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