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[ick312]

Good evening ladies and gentlmen,

what we can see lately is that the croc is mainly used to charge FRONTALLY atgs and actually even dont care if a shrek is right next to the atg.
We it usually takes both out and keeps enough health to continue the fight vs the rest of the squish targets.

Well honestly theres something broken. If your P4 (12 pop) ends as a wreck if it starts to charge an atg + handheld and a Croc (10 pop) stays on the field and keeps on slaying.

[tank130]

Really?

Pics or it didn't happen I think.

[aeroblade56]

I have been using crocs with smoke and RRS. and i have played against ick quite a bit recently.

I think he is complaining about how effective the croc is in certain situations.

Anywho Its nothing to complain about ICK. the croc is entirely a luck based unit without smoke the croc wouldnt make it to it's target without dying before hand. the 50cal on top helps the croc land that crit it needs.

Crocs since they have very limited range and its range only increased by +5 at vet servers no purpose to gain veterancy on. i think that is why you see me or anyone else lol charge with them.

From what i understand is that the croc is complete shit for the money(IMO) you can pay a slight bit more and get a sherman, which is more versatile and can strafe easier can(not win) fight P4s or other light targets. The sherman croc however can not fight LV can not fight Tanks can not effectively strafe Infantry.

Hell you can purchase a HT or M8 and be just as effective without to much luck.

[PonySlaystation]

A pak and a schreck grenadier tends to be able to beat a croc and axis have units with similar effectiveness (ostwind, pzIV IST). The only issue I see is how they get a free top mg, isn't that sort of thing supposed to be in unlocks and cost munitions? giving ab the same T1 is just lack of imagination.

[aeroblade56]

I have seen P4 ist and ostwinds perform 2-3x better then a sherman crocodile.

it wasnt rare when you saw uglysori with  15-20 kill average on one IST.

Even ostwinds  can protect a sniper well and take out LVS and kill infantry.

[tank130]

Wind runs sniper spam with Ostw support. Damn hard to counter the first time you come across it.

Before we get the long list of counters - I said the first time, not the second or third when you have rebuilt your company to handle it 

[Sharpshooter824]

Good evening ladies and gentlmen,

what we can see lately is that the croc is mainly used to charge FRONTALLY atgs and actually even dont care if a shrek is right next to the atg.
We it usually takes both out and keeps enough health to continue the fight vs the rest of the squish targets.

Well honestly theres something broken. If your P4 (12 pop) ends as a wreck if it starts to charge an atg + handheld and a Croc (10 pop) stays on the field and keeps on slaying.

You do realize a Sherman Crocodile's sole purpose is to kill infantry/support weapons right? A P4 IST (The PE equievalant) is also 10 pop for similiar cost and role, except it is also able to take on light vehicles with ease on top of utterly raping infantry. The crocodile is also extremely luck based due to its reliance on speed (Horrid pathing strikes more often then not) and the fact that its damage is completely reliant on flamethrowers.

I realize I have been destroying you all day with crocs but that doesn't mean they are OP in the slightest sense. You seem to have a pattern of complaining about everything being OP in about every single game I play against you. It may be time to step back and look at what you are doing wrong instead of what you perceive as OP

[XIIcorps]

Does this mean the Churchill croc is super duper OP  cause it has 2 guns and the ability to ward off most lvs

[ick312]

You do realize a Sherman Crocodile's sole purpose is to kill infantry/support weapons right? A P4 IST (The PE equievalant) is also 10 pop for similiar cost and role, except it is also able to take on light vehicles with ease on top of utterly raping infantry. The crocodile is also extremely luck based due to its reliance on speed (Horrid pathing strikes more often then not) and the fact that its damage is completely reliant on flamethrowers.

I realize I have been destroying you all day with crocs but that doesn't mean they are OP in the slightest sense. You seem to have a pattern of complaining about everything being OP in about every single game I play against you. It may be time to step back and look at what you are doing wrong instead of what you perceive as OP

yes its true we had several games together. yes you won all of them.
what u dont mention is the following: You guys use AB Mortar with airburst. but i guess they are balanced. And i am just doing something wrong.

 What you also dont mention is that we played alot of other games together and i just kicked the shit out of you.

just think of the 2v2 with jagdgeschwader at the end. u remember? yep the croc was charging the atg  and taking it  out while 3 shreks were shooting on him.


the whole issue of eirr is that allies got used to charge frontally and call this skill. While axis need to flank.
just take a look on ranger and AB ranger, take a look smoke nades, take a look RRs in smoke, take a look on the cros, take a look on the churchill croc and check out the hellkitty.

- check smg ranger being competetive vs KCH (but kch dont have fire up)
- check smoke + RR vs ur atg
- check the AB Ranger and Ranger fire up - ups a charge failed and i runned straight into an HMG, HEY fire up and i am out!
- smoke nades on regular infantry bases + Flamer
- Crocs 10 pop killing what should keep them away

[Poppi]

yes its true we had several games together. yes you won all of them.
what u dont mention is the following: You guys use AB Mortar with airburst. but i guess they are balanced. And i am just doing something wrong.

 What you also dont mention is that we played alot of other games together and i just kicked the shit out of you.

just think of the 2v2 with jagdgeschwader at the end. u remember? yep the croc was charging the atg  and taking it  out while 3 shreks were shooting on him.


the whole issue of eirr is that allies got used to charge frontally and call this skill. While axis need to flank.
just take a look on ranger and AB ranger, take a look smoke nades, take a look RRs in smoke, take a look on the cros, take a look on the churchill croc and check out the hellkitty.

- check smg ranger being competetive vs KCH (but kch dont have fire up)
- check smoke + RR vs ur atg
- check the AB Ranger and Ranger fire up - ups a charge failed and i runned straight into an HMG, HEY fire up and i am out!
- smoke nades on regular infantry bases + Flamer
- Crocs 10 pop killing what should keep them away

simple explanation.
- crocs doesnt do shit to  armored units. just shoots flame at inf. and does a bad job most of the time.  p4 does damages everything. and croc will take out the pak but shrek to the rear will destroy it after a  only a few. crocs are easy to counter. even with inf. unlike lets say a ost. where you charging it with RRs and zooks means total decimation of the infantry.
-KCH doesnt need fire up 95% of the time
-MG42 instant long distance suppress majority of inf, even rangers and AB while Fire up recharges. KCH can rush through HMGs.
-thought AB RR was supposed to excel in smoke. like flamers and smoke
-and thought with axis super heavies bouncing off ATGs, m10s, m18s, firefly shots axis not only has the ability to rush the front line but utterly fucking crush it.

[XIIcorps]

Lol crying kch don't have a fire like ability.
You are aware that IIRC kch have the greatest suppression resistance of all inf.
They will more often then not close the distance to an mg squad before they even get one volley out.
Let alone mgs in buildings just get nuked with assault nades.


Crocs are fine, granted if your an inf based at unit your toast but. Vech based at is a sure fire counter