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Spartan_Marine88
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Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 23, 2013, 11:06:20 am »
The epic looking game has quickly brought out disappointing news, we have all heard about its button mashing QTE that seem to be the core of the gameplay. Well now they are bringing out a stunning new feature.
Microtransactions in Multiplayer for faster leveling!
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/23/ryse-son-of-rome-will-include-microtransactions
Now, can is it going to stop me in every QTE and ask me if i want to pay 99c to get a 100% complete?
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 23, 2013, 11:27:33 am »
Did you even read the article? You can do it by either grinding out the gold, or paying to grind faster, or just buy a little bit of gold. This gold is used to buy boosters, that might provide the armor pieces you want.
OH NOES!!!
Dear god, why would they ever offer people a way to trade MONEY for TIME.
I don't see the issue, don't want to pay, get things by spending more time playing. Or, save some time and pay some money. Seems pretty standard to me.
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nikomas
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 05:26:46 am »
Quote from: AmPM on August 23, 2013, 11:27:33 am
Did you even read the article? You can do it by either grinding out the gold, or paying to grind faster, or just buy a little bit of gold. This gold is used to buy boosters, that might provide the armor pieces you want.
OH NOES!!!
Dear god, why would they ever offer people a way to trade MONEY for TIME.
I don't see the issue, don't want to pay, get things by spending more time playing. Or, save some time and pay some money. Seems pretty standard to me.
Spam aside, I'm quite amazed how you're willing to act like this does not affect the game and multiplayer design. Even developers will flat out admit that it inherently makes the game worse for people not willing to spend extra money.
In a free to play title like war-thunder it's fine because it's their source of income, you get to play for free if you want but you'll have a better experience if you pay to support the game, fair enough.
This argument does NOT hold any water for a paid title and last I checked they expect you to pay for Ryse. Shit like this does make for worse multiplayer inherently because they want the paid experience to be better than the free one. Designing multiplayer around this in a paid title is simply a cashgrab at expense of gameplay quality.
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 09:35:38 am »
Quote from: nikomas on August 29, 2013, 05:26:46 am
Spam aside, I'm quite amazed how you're willing to act like this does not affect the game and multiplayer design. Even developers will flat out admit that it inherently makes the game worse for people not willing to spend extra money.
In a free to play title like war-thunder it's fine because it's their source of income, you get to play for free if you want but you'll have a better experience if you pay to support the game, fair enough.
This argument does NOT hold any water for a paid title and last I checked they expect you to pay for Ryse. Shit like this does make for worse multiplayer inherently because they want the paid experience to be better than the free one. Designing multiplayer around this in a paid title is simply a cashgrab at expense of gameplay quality.
The only advantage it would give, is the same as the advantage a person who can stay at home and play all day receives. All it is, is a time for money exchange, nothing else.
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nikomas
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 09:43:44 am »
Quote from: AmPM on August 29, 2013, 09:35:38 am
The only advantage it would give, is the same as the advantage a person who can stay at home and play all day receives. All it is, is a time for money exchange, nothing else.
Dead Wrong.
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 10:01:24 am »
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"The way that you get armour is very similar to how you get it in like Mass Effect or FIFA. You only earn gold while playing multiplayer (and) you use that gold to buy booster packs. Those booster packs contain random sets of loot. Based on the different tiers of loot that you get - whether you buy Bronze, Silver or Gold Packs - guarantees whether you get rare or common items.
"One of the things that we did a little different is that you can buy them with in-game currency and real world currency. The difference is that if you're close we also have small microtransactions.
Which part of that is not a time for money exchange, and gives an unfair end game advantage?
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 06:48:55 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on August 29, 2013, 10:01:24 am
Which part of that is not a time for money exchange, and gives an unfair end game advantage?
You clearly don't understand console games very well, so trying to explain to you how after multiple games someone who gets tossed into server ques at a higher level with more gear unlocks then everyone else negatively affects the game.
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 10:31:46 pm »
Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on August 29, 2013, 06:48:55 pm
You clearly don't understand console games very well, so trying to explain to you how after multiple games someone who gets tossed into server ques at a higher level with more gear unlocks then everyone else negatively affects the game.
Is that any different than the people with no life who play a ton and have those unlocks?
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 29, 2013, 11:06:12 pm »
So you pay your way out of the grind ?
Why even play then, that would be like only playing premium tanks in WOT.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 09:14:54 am »
Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen first hand experience of why Microsoft dominates the us market and not the rest of the world.
I didn't know actually playing my 60 dollar game instead of paying it to get me everything meant I had no life. Thank you for opening my eyes to the reality of American recreation, where if you aren't hemorrhaging money you can't possibly enjoy yourself.
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 10:10:26 am »
You can, but some people prefer to spend money rather than time. Some people have more free time than others, some have more money than others. This rewards those with spare time, and it rewards those who want to throw in money.
Is the issue that you don't want to put in money, so you feel it's unfair if people do?
I spent $125 on Star Citizen to start with the ship I want and some other economic advantages, OH noes!!
The tragedy!! How will others dare to compete!! Oh wait, after a few weeks it won't matter.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 11:36:18 am »
Yes all knowing ampm, all you say makes so much sense to me now.
*exits thread incase the stupid is infectious*
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 12:14:24 pm »
Cry moar that some people will get an early advantage for additional money that fades away after 2 weeks.
It's like complaining someone buys the collectors edition of BF and gets a gun unlock...
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 04:14:17 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on August 30, 2013, 12:14:24 pm
It's like complaining someone buys the collectors edition of BF and gets a gun unlock...
A gun can be balanced by stats, or just be a reskin. An XP, stat, or monetary buff is flat better the comparison just isn't accurate. Instead of trying to defend bad business decisions you should be trying to make your hobby better.
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AmPM
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Re: Ryse Son of Rome, Father of Dissappointment
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August 30, 2013, 07:10:33 pm »
If they get an XP bonus, or can get gear earlier, it's not hurting you any more than someone that spent 5 days straight playing the game while you had to go to work.
Why does it matter if they unlock first? It's exactly like saying that someone got unlocks earlier for BF because they bought a collectors edition.
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