Some new ideas for EiRR

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[GrayWolf]

Hi guys. It's me GrayWolf the most hatted kid in EiR community.
Well I was thinking about balance and other stuff and few ideas came to my mind.

1. Reward pool system

This one is simple. There is pool for reward units. You have max. of 4 points to spend on reward units in your company.
For example : Flakpanzer cost 2 points, but Maus or SP cost 4 of them.
I divided reward units on 4 classes :

Normal reward units (cost 1 point) : Elite grens, Marines, Support Grens, ambulance (basicly reward infantry)
Good reward units (cost 2 points) : Sniper, lv's, Wespe, t57 (Special inf and lv's)
Rare reward units (cost 3 points) : Panther CCT (tanks)
Uber reward units (cost 4 points) : Maus, SP, TA (Legendary tanks)

Why should it be implemented ? Well a lot of players are qq about "we cannot fight vs reward units, they are just too OP". Well I think they are kinda right. This system will balance reward units, for example : If you have a Maus you cannot call any other reward unit.

2. Heroic units/Commanders.

This is a lot bigger thing (and also harder to do ... I think :p). You guys probably still remember the video "Train your own Tiger Ace". Well this is similar, but instead of TA you have to train your special infantry units - Commanders.

At the begging every player choose the doc upgrades, places your coy on the warmap, then builds his company. My idea is to add an extra step to that system : Commanders. Every player have to choose his commander. This is an extra unit which you can call on the battlefield. Every Commander is different, for example :

Arty officer : Strikes, bonus aura, flares
Sgt Shabflame : Fire up, flame every thread, elite armor, + acc aura.
Captain Corps : qq about balance, better buff Brits, Buff for tanks in sector, bonus HP for Churchills.
Sniper Skaffa : no idea...

Of course they won't have all the stuff on the begging (just like the TA), so you need to level up them :

Sgt Shabflame

lvl 0 : Call them noobs - Enemy inf receive more dmg
lvl 1 (40 exp) : Flame the thread
lvl 2 (150 exp) : 3x Hummel spam vs Commando blob
lvl 3 (300 exp): Come on niggah : Taunt enemy tanks
lvl 4 (750 exp): Lithuania es numero uno
lvl 5 (1500 exp): Leave the match when your team is winning. Ultra taunt, everybody crying.

Of course if you lose your officer you lose a lot of points in game (-1.20 ?) and death resets you exp (you still have the commander).

Every nation has 2 or 3 commanders.

Why ?
Some fresh wind, also it's funnier when you level up command unit like that, than for example : Jagpanther (Abilities every level).
Also to balance it, commanders cannot use retreat button, so they cannot run from the middle of the fight, you need to move them to the respawn.



What do you guys think about it ? What devs think about it ? Is it possible to implement it ? Do you have enough positive energy to implement it ?

Sorry for my ENGRIISH skills

[XIIcorps]

Could you maybe do the human race a service and not pass on your obviously flawed genes ?

[GrayWolf]

I just proposed some changes, it depends on devs if they want make it happen or not.

[Unkn0wn]

If reward units are OP, then they should be balanced. Just because they are reward units doesn't mean they can be above unit balance.

[GrayWolf]

If reward units are OP, then they should be balanced. Just because they are reward units doesn't mean they can be above unit balance.

Well imo reward units should be better, but you cannot have lot of them. The main point of my statement is, that if you have Maus or SP, you cannot have any other reward unit.

[Unkn0wn]

I'm sorry but that is a completely flawed approach to game balance. What does it matter if you have many of unit X if one unit X is absolutely OP and enough of a heartache for the opposing players?
 
If players have a maus they should not be able to field another super heavy, I think that's a no brainer. But why should someone who has a maus be restricted from also having say some elite grenadiers?

[GrayWolf]

I'm sorry but that is a completely flawed approach to game balance. What does it matter if you have many of unit X if one unit X is absolutely OP and enough of a heartache for the opposing players?
 
If players have a maus they should not be able to field another super heavy, I think that's a no brainer. But why should someone who has a maus be restricted from also having say some elite grenadiers?

Well... Have you ever tried to kill the maus supported by Elite Grens... I think not

[GrayWolf]

Ok, just delete the thread . _.
Looks like it won't happen anyway...

[Unkn0wn]

Cleaned thread

[Shabtajus]

well we have officers aint we? add special abillities to them being at vet4 or vet5 and ya have ya comander. also woulda be fun to have a chance to name units being at vet5. omgMod had this feature, was really fun tbh

[GrayWolf]

well we have officers aint we? add special abillities to them being at vet4 or vet5 and ya have ya comander. also woulda be fun to have a chance to name units being at vet5. omgMod had this feature, was really fun tbh

Well, Shab you have won the thread now, why not doing sth like this, when it's easier to do ?

[tank130]

We will be adding commander cards in the near future that will be somewhat similar to what you are suggesting........ sort of.

We will be looking at the balance of RW units during this "No Docs" phase.

[GrayWolf]

We will be adding commander cards in the near future that will be somewhat similar to what you are suggesting........ sort of.

We will be looking at the balance of RW units during this "No Docs" phase.

WOW, JUST WOW.

Christmas has ended tank and you're still nice to me ? Have I done sth wrong ?

Anyway thanks for saying that, this mod needs some fresh air.

[tank130]

Don't get too excited..... I still don't like you........lol

Commander cards is something we had worked on for Eirr2. Now that we have essentially been screwed by Sega on that, we are looking at trying to implement some of the Eirr2 ideas into Eirr.

The problem we have is the current launcher is so archaic and difficult to code changes, that these kinds of things are near impossible (motivation wise) to implement.

Eirrmod is currently working on getting a new GUI together. It is a shit ton of up front work to get it going, but it will make future changes way simpler. Once the new GUI is in place, we can start trying out all the new features.

I would expect 1 year before we have that all in place tbh.

[GrayWolf]

Don't get too excited..... I still don't like you........lol

Commander cards is something we had worked on for Eirr2. Now that we have essentially been screwed by Sega on that, we are looking at trying to implement some of the Eirr2 ideas into Eirr.

The problem we have is the current launcher is so archaic and difficult to code changes, that these kinds of things are near impossible (motivation wise) to implement.

Eirrmod is currently working on getting a new GUI together. It is a shit ton of up front work to get it going, but it will make future changes way simpler. Once the new GUI is in place, we can start trying out all the new features.

I would expect 1 year before we have that all in place tbh.

Well so, you want to make sth like commanders in CoH 2 right ?
Will it be instead of doctrines or more like my idea ?

[tank130]

Not really either tbh. But honestly, I am not going to go into details until we get a little closer to finalizing it.

[Ahnungsloser]

Not really either tbh. But honestly, I am not going to go into details until we get a little closer to finalizing it.

So everything was just a tease to keep us here.