T57 - Nerf/Buff

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[GrayWolf]

My idea to balance t57

Nerf :
- Rate of fire
- Accuracy

Buff :

+1 round
+ speed 1.15

[nikomas]

That was tried in the testing, problem is that the shells have a rather low AoE and that means it becomes made of suck if it's unable to hit fast or consistently.

Barrage CD is a tad short thou.

[Unkn0wn]

It's not just the T57, the Wespe has the same problem to be honest. I'd say they're just way too accurate for the frequent firing they do. In addition, the barrage sound definitely needs to be cranked up like it is with other artillery pieces.

[Uglysori]

I've mentioned this to Niko after seeing his and others in actions that it needs a tweak.  Probably in just one category either ROF or Scatter, or both in small increments.  As it is, it's simply sniping a support weapon or, ironically, a sniper every volley with tremendous accuracy.  You could tone down the rate of fire or increase scatter still have it do GMC impact dmg but have it also release Willie Pete cloud upon impact that burns any support weapons that don't displace?

I'd love to be given one to test to see if my observations are incorrect.   

[aeroblade56]

I'd love to be given one to test to see if my observations are incorrect.   

Yeah i want one as well so i can test. if my dear

Also i haven't used a jagdtiger but 2x so i would like to use it for balance.

[PonySlaystation]

It's not just the T57, the Wespe has the same problem to be honest. I'd say they're just way too accurate for the frequent firing they do. In addition, the barrage sound definitely needs to be cranked up like it is with other artillery pieces.

The Wespe is accurate but cannot cover a large area and fires fewer shells. There's nothing wrong with precision artillery like this.

The T57 is just too deadly. It's not just accurate, it fires homing missiles and obliterates entire squads in a second. There's no warning, you can't hear it firing. So even if you run you can't avoid it.

[XIIcorps]

That was tried in the testing, problem is that the shells have a rather low AoE and that means it becomes made of suck if it's unable to hit fast or consistently.

Barrage CD is a tad short thou.

how much faster does it need to fire ? iot shoots what 5 shells in 3 seconds, it gimps inf squads almost instantly, itll knock out almost in vech with a volley.

the things so OP it aint funny.

The funny thing is some how nikomas has 5 of the 9 T57s active .........

[PonySlaystation]

hotfix this unit already. it should never have been introduced in it's current state.

[terrapinsrock]

The funny thing is some how nikomas has 5 of the 9 T57s active .........

No surprises there

[tank130]

The funny thing is some how nikomas has 5 of the 9 T57s active .........

In his defense, not many people are using the unit. Some of the units you see are the ones he used for testing and are not actively being used. Basically they have not been knocked off the board because no one else has used them yet.

He has also spoken out in the Dev lobby that they need a change and that is being discussed.....so cut the guy a little slack please.   

[XIIcorps]

Id use it if I could fucking get it. But every game win loose or draw I get either warmap cards a wasp or an ambulance. Its driving me insane

[GrayWolf]

Id use it if I could fucking get it. But every game win loose or draw I get either warmap cards a wasp or an ambulance. Its driving me insane

Good, less OP shit on the field.

[TheArea]

needs a nerf, it murders support crews without fail, cant be dodged (like other arty),  and it damages tanks.  Silly unit as is.

[aeroblade56]

its k mine got killed by storms.

[GrayWolf]

its k mine got killed by storms.

3x2 Shrecks... Worth it xD

[XIIcorps]

Bought silver pack last night, got wasp, ambulance and......T57 yeww

[dlepah]

decrease the damnable penetration from this OP thingy.

ppls are actually using this to damage tanks(not the situation that trying to kill a tank which is at critical HP)
if you noticed, this thingy's firing sound is either non-existent or super low. so most of the heavy tanks gets entire volley up their ass
KT is the worst, its too big that even missed shots can do damages, a successful volley can remove 1/5 HP to 1/4 HP of KT

as far as i can tell, t57s was intended to barrage on soft targets(infs or supports) and it does too damn well on its purpose(also needs nerf or buff on axis counterpart).
but also a insta tank HP remova?

i lost all faith

[XIIcorps]

From memory its the short splash that does the dmg on this.
the same way the hummel and to a lesser extent the priest can hurt vechs.

 Hasnt got the greatest range, and it actually has spread now.
Flank the bloody thing with 2x upgun or 50mm puma its dead.

[Uglysori]

From memory its the short splash that does the dmg on this.
the same way the hummel and to a lesser extent the priest can hurt vechs.

 Hasnt got the greatest range, and it actually has spread now.
Flank the bloody thing with 2x upgun or 50mm puma its dead.

The thing has full damage and pen modifiers vs pretty much all targets.  Look at the target and pen tables.  It's why I've taken to potshotting KTs with them though generally you are better suited killing a support weapon with that volley timer.  Hummels also have full pen and dmg and 50% extra dmg with short range splash vs all targets which is it can take out a tank.

[XIIcorps]

So why he crying ? Cause somthing other then an atg or FF is hurting his KT