Attack time - poll

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[Batgirl]

It makes me sigh that you have to wait so much in EIRR. Shortening the attack delay would help ever that much.

[NightRain]

Attack time? You mean when you wait and listen to enemy fortification locations and decide with your team where to push and such? Use the time with your team rather than think by yourself.

[XIIcorps]

2 Minutes for a 2v2

4 Minutes for a 3v3,4v4

On most 2v2 maps you have just enough time to get to the middle, lay some mines and build a few defences.

On most 3v3,4v4 maps you have equally just enough time to get near the Arty limit and lay some defences/mines.

Any shorter and the game mode may as well not exist.

[CrazyWR]

its actually 3 for 2v2, 4 for 3v3, and 5 for 4v4.  And the attack timer is hardly a big deal except in a 4v4, and only then because 4 people coordinating defenses can get silly, not because the timer is too long.  Attackers still get +3 attack and some sort of countdown bonus where they don't seem to have to capture as much territory to start the timer.

[Shabtajus]

noooo oh god nooo

pls dont make dat timer shorter, i say we need increase it a little bit, i allways dropping 30% of cig which i cant finish cuz of aint enough def timer for proper smoking

[Korpisolttu]

Ain't the 4v4 5mins?

[CrazyWR]

yep, I mentioned that in my post

[Smokaz]

I like the attack time. CHange music, eat some, smoke a jay. Tell teammate they suck. Tell suckers they are team. Tell other team they are suckmates. There are other things with attack/def I am more hostile about.

[TheWindCriesMary]

To be honest I don't think defenders get enough handicap to offset how huge +3 pop is for each attacking player AND a more favourable timer.

Attacking is a tremendous advantage in EiR.

[brn4meplz]

To be honest I don't think defenders get enough handicap to offset how huge +3 pop is for each attacking player AND a more favourable timer.

Attacking is a tremendous advantage in EiR.

I actually agree with this, I always preferred attacking. It's significantly more fast paced and in coordinated cases, easier.

The defenders don't actually have a lot of time to defend, and their timer should probably increase. Once your dudes hit dirt, you've still gotta get to the front area, build defences, Prep areas(destroy garrison, cover, sight blockers, etc) and get ready for that opening salvo attack. Good luck if they have bonuses to shorten the attack time, or specialist assests which come in sooner(ab/commando)

[EIRRMod]

To be honest I don't think defenders get enough handicap to offset how huge +3 pop is for each attacking player AND a more favourable timer.

Attacking is a tremendous advantage in EiR.

Yep, it was heavily in the defenders favour before that +pop was added, and now (In my opinion) its balanced enough with a team that knows how to defend.

The issue as *I* see it, is that we dont have defend or attack specific builds anymore (Like vEIR) - and thats quite important.

Ive thought about different solutions, such as a 'sideboard' that could be chosen after you know the game type, to actual different builds that you can set up depending on what game type (Both heavy code changes) - so its been left unadressed in EIRR.

We'll be looking at that as we implement the mechanics into EIRR2, and other ways of making the different game-types fair AND that can be planned for.

Peace out.

[TheWindCriesMary]

Ive thought about different solutions, such as a 'sideboard' that could be chosen after you know the game type, to actual different builds that you can set up depending on what game type (Both heavy code changes)

You had my curiosity... but now you have my attention.

[EIRRMod]

You had my curiosity... but now you have my attention.

Having different (chosable) builds dependant on gametype would remove the issues amirite?

[TheWindCriesMary]

I think it would potentially go a long way, while also making these game modes a whole lot more fun to play.

Sure you could have a super defending company (tons of SE minefields and roadblocks for example), but you could also customize a super optimized attacking company as well equipped to waste tons of the defender's munies poured into mines.

I like it a lot.

[XIIcorps]

Its the single biggest issue thus far, no idea what game type will be till you RFS.

Pre warmap you had the luxury of selecting game type and thus building coys to suit.

having say and extra defense or offense tab to build a seperate composition but using say some of the same units from your company pool and mixing and matching as the situation beckoned.

[CrazyWR]

part of this would tie into being able to save templates for company builds.

[EIRRMod]

part of this would tie into being able to save templates for company builds.

Indeed, this is also what is being considered in some way.