Darsin
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« on: July 26, 2014, 07:29:35 pm » |
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I was just wondering if the 50mm puma really should be 8 pop, couldnt we just knock it down to maybe 7 pop instead, so nothing major just a little something.
Just in comparsion the Marder is 6 pop and while i do understand its the equivalent to an atg it's still a little bit mutch with a 2 pop difference.
A better comparsion would probs be the upgunned hotch with its vastly better AT ability then the puma but a weaker AI capasity and with the same 8 pop. I think it has been said multiple times here on the forums that the uped hotch has the best AT dps in the entire game and even if that's not true it still has a mutch better gun vs Tanks then what the puma has, with both better pen and faster reload(i belive). But its true that the uped hotch has a worse AI rolle then the puma it still can kill inf, its not rare to see hotches with some 6-8 kills for example.
I feel that the puma just is not on the same lvl as the uped hotch, in addition to not really like its worth 8 pop which is the same as the stug and its not realy as good as a stug either.
So maybe a small buff in the pumas favor in redussing its pop from 8 to 6 or 7, i think 7 is the better choice of those three.
Btw sorry for that broken english
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2014, 08:18:12 pm » |
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They arent ment to charge the front lines, they are flanking units used to harras.
En masse they can be a problem like any unit under 10 pop.
Cost wise they are cheap effective units and no different to the Upgun hotch, Stuart or M8.
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| NightRain
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2014, 09:30:31 pm » |
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Puma will never beat a stuart, but it can take on a cromwell and a sherman on with two
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| Rocksitter
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 01:40:43 pm » |
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So buff StuG..
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 08:18:25 am » |
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hey rock today is ya lucky day man, devs gonna add stug III, its a panther with Pershing gun and JP armour,
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Smokaz
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 09:13:31 am » |
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Seems acceptable compared to the other LV at 8 pop. Marder being 6 pop probably ended up being too low. 2 Marders for every sherman, good odds?
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| NightRain
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 09:55:13 am » |
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Yeah, Marder 6 pop Anti tank gun. It could be 5 pop like PAK38 and 57mm because they are all anti tank guns.
Meanwhile 50mm Halftrack is at least lower in pop.
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 10:04:24 am » |
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Speedy r u mad? Wtf shit ya trying to brew here? If marders will go down in terms of pop it will be retarded to bring any tanks on field for allied player cuz PE player will be too strong to in AT department and will gain more pop for other stuff to kill any allied dream rushing frontlines
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Smokaz
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 10:16:38 am » |
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5 pop marder? I mean the opposite, a 8 pop marder would be more reasonable. Its so cheap and good.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 10:50:37 am » |
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Yeah, Marder 6 pop Anti tank gun. It could be 5 pop like PAK38 and 57mm because they are all anti tank guns.
Meanwhile 50mm Halftrack is at least lower in pop.
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bad luck skaffa> creates best and most played eir maps
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Smokaz
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 10:54:11 am » |
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lol. I hope speedy isnt the mystery balance lead xD
Thoughts go to a RTC game vs speedy, having double armor vs the old ACPR marders. 4 shotting shermans, having 2 marders for each sherman. bulunce heya no but srsly, lower pop marder suggestion is borderline trolling |
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 10:58:31 am » |
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waiting for comment what mysth is thinking and gonna do.
speedy?
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 11:58:48 am » |
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Marder isn't just an anti tank gun. It's mobility allows it to effectively chase tanks and escape the hard counters of regular at guns (infantry, snipers, arty)
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 12:16:25 pm » |
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Aye, marder is a mobile tank destroyer / anti tank gun. It doesn't suffer from the usual ATG shenanigans but it can not be recrewed once destroyed and can only be (without doctrines) repaired once whilst anti tank guns can be healed completely and recrewed if the crew meets an unfortunate end. On top of being 150 fuel, instead of munitions meaning that for every marder there'll be less of something else.
How did we stray from upgun puma to a marder anyhow?
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Smokaz
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 12:40:40 pm » |
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Marder is mentioned in original post.
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