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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2008, 12:22:44 am »

Its called construcive and mature discussion days,  look it up, ideas can get suggested and worked on does not mean they are finite. 
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2008, 12:34:22 am »

Well...honestly cutting down the number of drops basically cuts the balls off of airborne, its what they do.

As others have said, and I said, and as Salan (and now your doing) Ostwinds are the counter to AB, and they do it VERY effectively. 

Ive posted in another thread, lets not try and find ways to nerf doctrines/troops how about find ways to counter it first, I hate the "its too powerful, thats OP -- lets nerf it mentality."
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2008, 12:36:32 am »

balance comes from having many choices of counters to what may or may not be OP.  1 unit suggestion (ostwind) does not reach balance.
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2008, 12:41:08 am »

Ok an Ostwind backed by 2 MGs then, backed by a PAK.  Ive had it used against me very effectively, done right it will lock down an area.  Yes AB can fireup for the MGs but they wont get very far with the Ostwind drilling them. 

There are many other things you can do to, I know, because its been used against me.  Again...think before yelling for the nerf bat.
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bromly
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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2008, 12:49:24 am »

my anti air company is 5 ostwinds, 3 puma, 8 mgs, 8 duel shreks, 3 paks...  pwns airborn and any tanks they bring!
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2008, 12:51:04 am »

Screened ostwinds are virtually impossible to take down without an AT gun.  Chews airborne up good, esp. with vet.

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bromly
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2008, 12:52:29 am »

Screened ostwinds are virtually impossible to take down without an AT gun.  Chews airborne up good, esp. with vet.



i know i did it to you that one game Smiley

shizor, this is salan btw
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GammaCommander Offline
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2008, 12:57:22 am »

Pumas also work.
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2008, 02:18:59 am »

Well thats the point Im making, dont scream for a nerf when there are perfectly viable ways of countering airborne.
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2008, 02:26:32 am »

Again...think before yelling for the nerf bat.

Flame elsewhere, our original points were well thought out.  And Ucross says changes are probably coming so this post can be locked as all questions are answered in the future.
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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2008, 02:28:20 am »

No winder I've been seeing all these ostwinds lately being trown at my armour company  Wink.
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anthony210 Offline
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2008, 04:50:35 am »

I agree airborne is a bit OP right now,  They have so many of them with recoiless rifles (dont tell me they suck because they seem to kill tanks np) and they can drop anywhere they want at any time.

They need a price increase or atleast raise the price of recoiless rifles.
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Steinmarder Offline
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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2008, 05:02:43 am »

lets just wait what ucross has in mind with the AB companies

and for everyone who didnt think about it, you can check what companies you are facing on the "battle" page in the war control panel.

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Warlord511 Offline
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2008, 09:29:56 am »

Im a Airborne player and I find that play are priced fine. I went Airborne elite and a gren or storm squad still can kill my troops, it all about cover and positon.
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scrapking Offline
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« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2008, 09:31:15 am »

My own opinion is that it has nothing to do with pricing, but rather abilities, specifically how frequently you can make an airborne drop.
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2008, 09:52:46 am »

Okay here is why i think AB are Overused (not OP);

The fact that you can easly maul one player / position in any larger game with ab players is overseen so far. The teamwork does the trick.

Airborne are the new Ranger´s. Logically evryone flees to them with those RiflePrice´s.

A vet. 3 RR, nade & Stachle AB is a ace in all area´s. It can defeat TAnk´s, inf & hmg´s.... for a limited time. (1 use stachle´s, long cooldown fireup) However that short time is enave to give the impresion of unkillable OP Units.

AB have a easy go with MCP. Admit it. They are the perfect choice, followed by blitz, to win by mcp.

AB players are just to good ;P


Here are my tip´s for the axis:


-Stop the Gren swarming.

-use MP volk´s. MPVolks are cheaper than upgraded AB and lower in pop and they can evade a grenade just fine.

-Puma´s force your enemy to bring RR´s (miss all the time if you move) or Tank´s.
A AB player wont have more than 5 tank´s (m10´s) at all times. Send a puma, hunt some airborn, kill the tank & repeat. They will be out of AT soon.

Airborne players have:
Fightingpower, Speed.

They lack;
Unit´s, Anti-Tank.

You can out attrition them or focus on anti tank.

-And for the love of God. If a near death squad "Walks" away ... Dont you think there might be a triage center around?

Also i only have 4 games in my 40 (!) where i did not get down to my last 3 call in´s.
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