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« on: March 26, 2008, 10:41:27 am » |
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I would really like to see your retort on how badly the axis lost LATE war compared to how they are fairing early war.
the allies have always been a late war faction, IF they get up to speed the axis are in a heap of trouble, but its a climb to get there!
a few people were on about 'seeing how the territories are 700-20 I don't see your point' ... I think its functioning as intended at this point, and perhaps people will actually try to look beyond the immediate when they try to proclaim balance issues.
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Demonic Spoon
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 10:52:51 am » |
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 If they are OPed in the late war and UPed in the early war, then it's still not balanced.
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Forefall
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 10:54:27 am » |
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^ Truth.
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| Demonic Spoon
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 10:55:52 am » |
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Reduce cost of riflemen to 180 or 170.
Make Allied and Axis vet similar in power and difficulty to get.
Problem solved.
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| salan
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 11:04:16 am » |
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^ Truth.
well, ok.. BUT is it not the way you guys have designed it? making the vet xp longer to get doesn't change that you still get it.. |
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Ucross
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 11:06:44 am » |
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I think you need to think about that more. =P
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| salan
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2008, 11:13:26 am » |
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I think you need to think about that more. =P
hmmmm, well ok. If vet is harder to get, the units getting it are in more danger of dieing before they reach their vetted status, meaning they will recycle a bit more then they would had they reached vet. Further their opposition runs less risk of death during their vetting timeline due to their bonus's not being active. so in truth it means you MIGHT not get it. (that better?) |
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Ucross
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2008, 11:19:51 am » |
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slightly, still off though. =P
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Days of War
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 11:29:40 am » |
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Reduce cost of riflemen to 180 or 170.
Make Allied and Axis vet similar in power and difficulty to get.
Problem solved.
Then clone all the axis units, make them green, and give them to the allies. Problem solved.  |
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| Avalanche
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 11:30:40 am » |
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give axis exact same allies vet, problem solved
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| salan
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 11:32:38 am » |
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give axis exact same allies vet, problem solved
not exactly, the upgrades are completely different as are actual unit stats... |
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Wraith547
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2008, 11:34:17 am » |
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give axis exact same allies vet, problem solved
This wouldn't work. Axis units are inherently stronger, if you do this the allies would be completely over matched as even their vet 3 units would be unable to stand up to their axis counterparts. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 11:35:29 am » |
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make them vet up slower then
isnt that the way they fix allies vet overpowerness?
and how axis units are stronger? ranger, airborne > all
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Wraith547
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2008, 11:36:34 am » |
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isnt that the way they fix allies vet overpowerness?
not if we are going to continue to use the vCoH vet benefits |
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| Demonic Spoon
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 11:39:12 am » |
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This wouldn't work. Axis units are inherently stronger, if you do this the allies would be completely over matched as even their vet 3 units would be unable to stand up to their axis counterparts. BS they are. Allied units are as good as the Axis ones. |
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| salan
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2008, 11:45:40 am » |
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they are completely different. Mortars, mgs, at guns even the infantry upgrades are different. I wouldn't say the allied are completely outclassed, they are DIFFERENT.
and their vet needs to be different because of it.
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Wraith547
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2008, 11:48:11 am » |
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This wouldn't work. Axis units are inherently stronger, if you do this the allies would be completely over matched as even their vet 3 units would be unable to stand up to their axis counterparts. BS they are. Allied units are as good as the Axis ones. Once again your logic completely confounds me. You are the only person i have seen in this mod that feels that allied units are equivalent in strength to axis ones. I don't think its possible to convey to you that allied units are cheaper but weaker, so I'm not going to bother as you would simply ignore anything I have to say anyways. |
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| Avalanche
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2008, 12:07:14 pm » |
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imo, the only thing allies are significantly weaker are un upgraded rifle and airborne, when compared to un upgraded gren and storm.
sherman to pz4
but those are appropriatly marked price, and balanced
all other allies units are atleast as powerful as axis counter parts, while priced similarly.
some of them are priced too cheap like rr
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