The Final Calliope Debate

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[salan]

snipes what are you on about?

He's just saying that the main issue some people (salan) had with the Calliope is that 2 can be fielded simultaneously, thereby halving the cooldown time, but that this can be done with the Nebelwerfer and Walking Stuka just the same.

you didn't listen to any of my arguments at all did you?  cuz i guarantee you, you are 100% wrong on what my argument was.

[Mobius]

No, actually I prefer not to even read what you post at this point, it saves me from much mental anguish.

[salan]

No, actually I prefer not to even read what you post at this point, it saves me from much mental anguish.

then why are you crazy enough to put my name in your statement and say thats what i was arguing?

[Mobius]

Because I felt like incriminating you. Please stop derailing, thanks.

[anthony210]

You cant try and say what somone was arguing and then 2 posts later admit to not even reading the post...  thats crazy.

[salan]

Mobius when i'm right about what I am arguing about, I won't back down. And I won't let uninformed people, like yourself

snipes what are you on about?

He's just saying that the main issue some people (salan) had with the Calliope is that 2 can be fielded simultaneously, thereby halving the cooldown time, but that this can be done with the Nebelwerfer and Walking Stuka just the same.

derail it aka strawman fallacy.(tx scrap).  If that causes you anguish then you should seriously think twice about arguing with determined well informed people and keep it on whatever level you are actually use to..  bringing me into a conversation I was happily leaving alone, and on wrong pretenses, really won't help your mental stability.

[salan]

I hadn't even posted in this thread... silly silly man

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

i like the way you threaten to make him go insane .

really won't help your mental stability

[salan]

i like the way you threaten to make him go insane .

really won't help your mental stability

well its obvious he has issues with well formed and determined arguments... bringing me into one that i was specifically staying out of, will have an effect he really obviously doesn't like.

[Mobius]

"Well-formed" would imply that your arguments actually make sense. The reason I said you "cause me mental anguish" is because you seem incapable of writing with proper grammar and capitalization, much to my displeasure. I refuse to devolve into arguing with someone who fails to grasp the tenets of the language with which we are expressing ourselves. Good day, Sir.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

^^ WTF  we are getting personal now are we?!

[Unkn0wn]

"Well-formed" would imply that your arguments actually make sense. The reason I said you "cause me mental anguish" is because you seem incapable of writing with proper grammar and capitalization, much to my displeasure. I refuse to devolve into arguing with someone who fails to grasp the tenets of the language with which we are expressing ourselves. Good day, Sir.

So what if that person didn't have english as his first language?

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

or has pink shirt syndrome... <-- i hear it is horrible.

[salan]

"Well-formed" would imply that your arguments actually make sense. The reason I said you "cause me mental anguish" is because you seem incapable of writing with proper grammar and capitalization, much to my displeasure. I refuse to devolve into arguing with someone who fails to grasp the tenets of the language with which we are expressing ourselves. Good day, Sir.

or do you mean that you are incapable of a well informed argument that actually makes sense? and instead attempt to derail and side track conversations and misrepresent what others say in order to make your argument look stronger?

I don't have the best grammar, nor spelling, never pretended to. Sometimes I can actually use the wrong words to represent what I am trying to say even.  I guess in this case you can say what you mean, and I'll just argue whats right.  Because its obvious your lacking in that area.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

una corrección:

and I'll just argue whats right.

--> what you believe is right.

[salan]

or has pink shirt syndrome... <-- i hear it is horrible.

ouch... you'll regret that!

I'm going to make my own rick roll video, and I'll get you with it, just wait!

[salan]

una corrección:

and I'll just argue whats right.

--> what you believe is right.

shhh, craziness is a part of this thread now!

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

well we have successfully derailed this thread... which one is next?

[Unkn0wn]

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php/topic,4495.msg77283/topicseen.html#new

[Mobius]

"Well-formed" would imply that your arguments actually make sense. The reason I said you "cause me mental anguish" is because you seem incapable of writing with proper grammar and capitalization, much to my displeasure. I refuse to devolve into arguing with someone who fails to grasp the tenets of the language with which we are expressing ourselves. Good day, Sir.

So what if that person didn't have english as his first language?

That does not prevent one from making an effort to use proper grammar. In fact, I find that when someone is new to a language they are more focused on proper structure than those who consider themselves to be fluent and have become careless with their words. Again I will ask you folks to return to the topic at hand rather than the discussion of my arrogant remarks.

I personally feel that the Calliope, for its price, is rightfully powerful, as it has very little protection at close range. I will concede that an increase in it's pop cap value may be in order, but nothing severe. Perhaps an increase by 4 or 5 points would be adequate, enough to limit the support crew that a player is able to bring in simultaneously with the vehicle itself.