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Author Topic: Axis, Answer this question please.  (Read 3825 times)
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puddin Offline
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« on: April 05, 2008, 09:05:59 pm »

What units, besides the caliope, Howie, and a Haltrack, are better or can at all compete with your units? 

Allies have Better arty, Axis have better most everything else.  Just like in vCoh, Yet Axis can single out singular units that are powerful because there is not a wide range of units to choose from. 

Please answer what units are more powerful then any of your axis counterparts and the debate will solve itself.  Since they are really the only things more powerful, it becomes a problem.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 09:08:22 pm »

SMG rangers are the strongest anti-infantry and easily the most versatile unit.

Airborne are the best units for getting anywhere on the map.

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Niichts Offline
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 09:13:20 pm »

ummm....Rifleman with BAR suppression vs. KCH
Throw a grenade on them
Then sticky a tank and damage its engine


what axis unit can do all of those things, not saying all rifleman can do all of those...but easily have that potential.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 09:18:20 pm »

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Allies have Better arty, Axis have better most everything else.

That's dumb.  In addition to what Ucross said:

RR's are probably the best AT infantry weapon, at least at range.

Rangers and airborne have fire-up, which is arguably the best unit ability in the game.

Allied HMGs counter light vehicles with AP rounds.

Allied grenades are much superior to axis.

Stickies consistently cause vehicle damage.

Bar suppression.

No axis unit can chase down vehicles like an M10.

The crocodile is the fiercest most powerful AI unit in the game and roasts buildings.
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Lolto Offline
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 09:23:19 pm »

What units, besides the caliope, Howie, and a Haltrack, are better or can at all compete with your units? 

What units besides your units that are better or can at all compete with our units? 

What units besides our units that are better or can at all compete with your units? 

It's a redundant question as if they are the only things you have that can successfully counter anything else.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 09:25:18 pm »

SMG rangers are the strongest anti-infantry and easily the most versatile unit.

MP44 stormtroopers are actually better AI, but SMG Rangers are definitely freaking brutal and versatile, can't deny that. 

WARNING: I am not supporting the idea that Axis has all better units than Allies.
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Jazlizard Offline
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 09:25:50 pm »

I don't understand the argument here, it's ok for the allies to have units that are possibly overpowered because according to you, all the axis units besides the ones you listed are better?

Also in general Rifles>Volks, Engies>Pios.

Regardless everything is balanced via cost, or should be at least, I'm not really sure what "debate" is even going on in this thread. In all honestly what are you trying to say? That axis units overall are more powerful then allied? In general I think everyone would agree with that, but there are still units, likely on both sides, that based on the COST of the unit vs the POWER, are unbalanced. Mostly folks tend to agree that the artillery pieces are a bit out of whack at the moment, some worse then others.
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anthony210 Offline
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2008, 10:00:03 pm »

What units, besides the caliope, Howie, and a Haltrack, are better or can at all compete with your units? 

Allies have Better arty, Axis have better most everything else.  Just like in vCoh, Yet Axis can single out singular units that are powerful because there is not a wide range of units to choose from. 

Please answer what units are more powerful then any of your axis counterparts and the debate will solve itself.  Since they are really the only things more powerful, it becomes a problem.

Im sorry but your post made your sound pretty ignorant. 

SMG rangers are better than MP44 storms
Airborne RR's are the best infantry AT in the game
Rifleman with BAR's own axis infantry
Allied grenades are better than axis grenades


Many other examples.  The argument that Axis units are better than Allied units is a rediculous one.  Both sides have counters to every unit.
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puddin Offline
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2008, 10:17:42 pm »



Many other examples.  The argument that Axis units are better than Allied units is a rediculous one.  Both sides have counters to every unit.

Nah just wanted more people to admit that, and stop complaining so damn much.  Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2008, 10:19:15 pm »

The game is balanced ingame, it's the pricing that is the tricky part.
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