Why are american soldiers the best?

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[Ciwawa]

if you want to compare STUFF say american army STUFF is the better in the world, not the people army.

And yes i have to learn english grammar because they haven't teached me to the school but i learned it on my own moving my ass over the internet with and old fashioned vocabolary trying to learn a foreign language.

And.... many of high tech usa stuff don't come from usa itself but from israel

[lompocus]

And.... many of high tech usa stuff don't come from usa itself but from israel

which is essentially a mini-usa.

also, f-22.

[Ciwawa]

And.... many of high tech usa stuff don't come from usa itself but from israel

which is essentially a mini-usa.

also, f-22.

ahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahah

Not very true for most people usa is a big israele

uahuahuahuahuahuahuaua

[Unkn0wn]

I study international politics at univsersity .

I'm really surprised a mod said that.
Brazil just flat out isn't to that level yet.
China will, for a long time, continue to rely on outside sources (mainly US) for food imports.
Russia (directed at LE)...well, I point to the history of russia and russia's lack of wanting to expand the right way as an indicator they can't be a superpower.
As far as India goes, that's a possbility. You never know Smiley
EU, because of their internal politics and their unwillingness to project their force.
I.E., in response to darfur and africa:

First off, you need to look at the 3 requirements to be considered a superpower:
Economic Power, Military Power & Political Power.

Economic power is pretty easy to measure, here we see that the European Union rivals and almost exceeds the United States. China (and india, brazil & other nations to a lesser extent) is third in line and well on its way to become the world's largest economy within the next 2 decades.

Military power is not too difficult either. The United States has the world's most advanced military, yet in numbers the European Union actually has more soldiers but lacks organisation on the highest levels (They don't officially have a European Army yet, only the EUFOR which is more like the UN's military). China obviously has the world's largest with over 2.3 million (!) soldiers, they don't however come even close in terms of technology & funding compared to the US. (Although note that the army's funding is being increased by the year)

Political power is the most difficult thing to measure, for this you need to look at the highest levels of world politics.
The question here is, do other countries/superpowers see the actions of another country/superpower as legitimate? And how much impact do the actions of one superpower have one the world, how much pressure can the superpower put on others? The US and their invasion of Iraq is a clear example of where the actions of one superpower are no longer seen as legitimate by the other superpowers/rest of the world.

The US deploys force all over the world, without the consent and approval of other nations. Not only does this lead to aggrevation, this is the first step towards the downfall of a true superpower.

What you need to keep in mind here is that history has always been the rise and fall of World Orders. There's the 'Pax Brittanica', the Austrian World Order, the Berlin World Order (under Bismarck) and eventually the Bipolar US-USSR struggle which led to the unilateral 'Pax Americana', which is now on its turn coming to an end as well.

This doesn't mean the US will dissapear from the map in terms of world politics, it merely means that in the next few decades, you'll see the importance of the US on a world level decrease. New superpowers will rise and they again will in time dissapear. No superpower remains in charge forever.

As a final note, it's also interesting to see how all World Orders usually end by the supernation undergoing a last, desperate attempt to keep their prestige & power intact.


These are ofcourse just the outlines and a rough explanation of how world politics evolved throughout history.
Wish it was truly as simple as I wrote above .

[Lesserevil]

@lompocus

Russia (directed at LE)...well, I point to the history of russia and russia's lack of wanting to expand the right way as an indicator they can't be a superpower.

Omg are you stupid? The Russian empire has a history of sad pitiful history. However one of the few things they do right is conquer. After all Russia has the largest land empire of the modern era.

Also don't be stupid there is no "right way" to expand there is only conquering and destroying people and culture that's taking over. However by your insolent tone i assume that you think that USA expanded in the "right way" if thats what you think you are dumber then you sound online. The only reason USA expanded the way it did was because there was no opposition (other then the Indians who barely count). Not to mention Russia > USA in terms of empire building. Even now Russia is BIGGER then the USA. 

Also remember USA SLAUGHTERED the Indians men, women and children so i dont even want to consider what you think is "right" short of genocide.   

[lompocus]

*gives up*

ok guys, whatever, when you see US dictating what you do in the future w/e.

[Novox]

I found this rather amusing. Being as it is a pointless argument. In all truth, it all depends where you live, the way you were raised, and by your ethnicity. Americans are being spoon fed propaganda, but then again, so are russians. Russia is being ran by the dedicated KGB nowadays (before you flame me, this is actually good for the country) and USA is being ran by greedy politicians.

During the Cold War, if you were a Russian, you were told that in America, life was terrible. That people died on the streets. The same is said if you were an American, they said similar things about Russians. Obviously, it was in fact Russia struggling, but they got to manipulate millions of peoples minds. The same happens today. You will never find the truth about what and how things work in wars, unless your the top man managing, or your dead and thrown into the ocean without a trace of your existence.

For the Americans that are proud of their army. I have nothing to go against. But for the Americans that are proud of what they are doing with their army, i feel like slapping you across the face.

I also find it funny how the american army is shown for being evil people because they abused / harrass citizens. Some of them probably are, but others have went insane due to the environment. If you ran over a child with your humvee because you had no choice (if you stoped, an RPG might pop you), you were nearly garanteed to go insane, unless you have no morals. (this was actually a movie)

Also, finally. USA lost in Vietnam. Believe what you want, but ignoring facts does not give people a good impression. You entered vietnam. You left vietnam (with loads of heroine) with casualties, and no change. If you fought on a different terrain, not a marshy one, you wouldve won, but you entered unknown terrain, they took advantage of it, whereas you were hopeless

Now in the end. I no this post made no difference in what you think. I just hope people can one day learn to open their narrow minds. But then again, i beleive that a maximum of 70% of the world is composed of idiots.

[Lesserevil]

*gives up*

ok guys, whatever, when you see US dictating what you do in the future w/e.

About freeking time you gave up. There is no way you could win that argument against some one of Russian background 

Saying that i have been here for over 11 years and have read soooooOOOoooo much history books / propaganda its actually quite funny.

@Novox

I agree with everything you say just about. Although i admit its difficult to like Putin seeing what he is doing. Now if he does what i think he will then omg i would worship him as a god. Of course chances of that happening are about 10%  but one can help.

Also American army is not evil it helps so much of the world. However because our media focuses on the negative aspects (because that gets them ratings) well the world thinks of them as evil. I mean honestly how many good stories about the army do you see on the news?

[GammaCommander]

Err, welcome to the Europe in Ruins community! It is kinda odd seeing that your first post is on such a thread.

I rather it be American forces that occupy a country and not Viet Cong or Communist forces. After the Vietnam War, my father had to bury all traces of his involvement with the US military to avoid being killed or imprisoned. While it is true American soldiers have committed war crimes before, I doubt they would have rounded up former soldiers to execute them.

[jackmccrack]

Hey Theta, you're Vietnamese?

[BLACKWIRE]

Haditha...that was the Marines doing some good eh?

[GammaCommander]

Hey Theta, you're Vietnamese?

Aye, my father is Chinese who moved down south when he was a child with my grandfather and my mother is Vietnamese.

[Ciwawa]

why no one listen to unknow that seem been the only with a "good" brain here? 

[Lesserevil]

I do listen, and i agree with most of what he said. But i dont wana nitpick the very tiny details.

[lompocus]

*gives up*

ok guys, whatever, when you see US dictating what you do in the future w/e.

About freeking time you gave up. There is no way you could win that argument against some one of Russian background 

Saying that i have been here for over 11 years and have read soooooOOOoooo much history books / propaganda its actually quite funny.

is it any use arguing with a brainwashed nut?

on a side note (and last post), no prediction of future powers seems to take space into account.

[Days of War]

Thats bullshit . U.S. soldiers don't get shit . Personaly I think they should tap into Iraqi oil money and give every soldier who does a tour at least $50.000 bonus . maybe more I don't know how much we could do . Spoils of war baby!

Just thought the stupidity of this comment should be pointed out. A bonus for every soldier? We are spending billions of dollars on this war per day. It would only increase our insane amount of debt.

Which is why the post Hooligan was responding to is also wrong.

[Hooligan1977]

You didd'nt read what I said . 50,000 out of Iraqi oil money . Maybe you should read the entire post before you start calling me stupid .

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Military power is not too difficult either. The United States has the world's most advanced military, yet in numbers the European Union actually has more soldiers but lacks organisation on the highest levels (They don't officially have a European Army yet, only the EUFOR which is more like the UN's military). China obviously has the world's largest with over 2.3 million (!) soldiers, they don't however come even close in terms of technology & funding compared to the US. (Although note that the army's funding is being increased by the year)

The big difference is actually that the US is the only nation with a worldwide military infrastructure.  The EU militaries cannot do this and neither can China.

[roflmao]

Just one thing Unk0wn, its pretty crazy to compare the entire European Union which is 27 countries (granted, some are pretty insignificant, but others are quite significant) to just 1 country (the US) and make a claim among the lines of "Europe > USA".

Fact that the US economy (GDP)  is almost as high as the combination of 27 countries, and actually was higher in the past is extremely remarkable.

[GammaCommander]

You didd'nt read what I said . 50,000 out of Iraqi oil money . Maybe you should read the entire post before you start calling me stupid .

So you want the US to exploit Iraq's natural resources?