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[Ciwawa]

Wouldn't you think France would go blow the mofos up

No. You don't invade a nation because some radicals operating within that nation organise a terrorist attack on your country.

...And we, people, have, on this momentous and historic day, found the perfect example of why the modern world is going nowhere.

@ warith: That's what the europeans continue to use as their tactics (luckily the recent french president is less french and take quite a staunch stance on terrorism and chaos in his country. Maybe because he's not even french). That's why they outlaw teaching the Holocaust in a great deal many european schools because it will 'anger the arabs to violence'.

Bullshit they invite some stermination camp survivor (they are so old) every year every days in the week of the memorial-day. They teach a lot about the camp of death and about the special SS-skulls division guarding the camp.

Diary of Anna Frank, is the most read summer homework book.

[lompocus]

That's why they outlaw teaching the Holocaust in a great deal many european schools because it will 'anger the arabs to violence'.

That's complete bullshit coming from someone who probably doesn't even live in Europe.
Pretty much all countries in Europe teach about the holocaust, many schools even make trips to freaking Auschwitz just to show students what it was like. Denying the holocaust without any study backing it up is forbidden by law in most European countries because it's considered highly racist.

If you there's terrorists operating within a Middle-eastern country, you don't just invade that country to deal with them, also punishing the majority of the innocent population in the process. Not only do you start a whole Crusade/Jihad by invading a middle-east country, you just end up fueling the radical organisation even further.

Just look at what's happening in the Middle East today.

Sunnies blowing up Shiias blowing up Kurds?

A kansas or tennesee school just did what i described in my post. Quite a few european schools, or at least a few in the UK, have done exactly what I said so don't call bullshit on fact. It's a limited number, yet it still happens. This whole political correctness and sudden idea of not getting anyone mad started over there with you guys.

Yes, you do invade the nation they operate from. You don't do it the way bush did it. You invade with even more utterly overwhelming force, go city to city, block to block, house to house, check everything, kill everyone who opposes you, set examples, and make the populace help you in eliminating the local terror problem. Those people who do not comply will later come back and stab you in the back. They will kill you. You're invading to destroy a threat which the locals themselves did not destroy. If the propagator of the whole this is the host government, you remove and execute the governing body and then follow suit with a hybrid of how we fixed WW2 Europe and Japan when dealing with the middle east. It was done like this in WW2. It worked, with minimal casualties for the civilians and allies. There's no reason to change tactics to a new strategy that takes 20x as long and kills the morale of everyone. This is why I despise any person in politics who has not been involved in the military who then forces their ideas on how the military ought to be run without having any prior experience in it.

[Jedi1]

Oh god I'm not going through 4 pages of replies again. Let me squash all you idiots' arguments with the Chewbacca theory:

I understand you all think the US is the root of all evil and all associated with the US is pure evil, as your non-american idiot propaganda teaches you to take all american contributions for granted, but here is exhibit A:



This, is chewbacca. Chewbacca is a 7' wookie from some fuckin tree-huggin' planet in some frickin' all-nonsense galaxy where big-ass motherflippin' 7' tall beasts from hell party down with 2' critters called ewoks that kill heavily armed men with sticks and big frickin' rocks.

That, people, makes no sense. Jedi's idiotic conspiracy theories make no sense. This is like Chewbacca killing 3000 ewoks for nothing, then getting arrested for killing all those ewoks. What did Chewbacca get out of all this? Nothing! It makes no sense!

This argument makes no sense! Nothing you people say makes sense! Do you people even care to study anything? Do you people care to provide some backup to your argument before calling everying a bullshitter? Do you automatically think Big Brother is the answer to all evil, and see him as the figurehead Chewbacca for which you put all the blame on (even if you idiots did vote for the current White House president. Twice. Against my shouting at you guys for 8 years THAT IT WAS A BAD IDEA).

Let's think about it for a second. If Gore was in office and he recieved oil funding and Al Queda blew up the towers, would it still be a conspiracy? If Mccain was up there (remember, he was going to win the 2000 nomination until the Bushites totally sabotaged his campaign) would it still be a conspiracy? What about Kerry, cleaning up the mess? If he suddenly did what needed to be done and obliterated any form of terrorists at the necessary expense of every single motherfucker in the area dying (who didn't comply with US action) and ended the war two years ago, you all would still be bitching and moaning. You see, you people are so hipocritical you MAKE NO SENSE, just like Chewbacca.

I guess now, at the advent of a very screwy 2008 election, it is finally time for me to say, "I told you so." That is directed at the 50% of america that wanted Bush and at the 90% of the rest of the world that continues to make it hell for us to clean up after your messes.

*kudos to anyone who gets the SP reference*

Were are you getting the impression that we think the US is the rought of all evile. Were did you get that impression. And were are you getting the impression that we don't do any reaserch. If you want to see some exsampules of reaserch just check google vidios. Whatch some of the two or three hour long vidios with axsaminations of the 9/11 attacks and the many strange happining. Why did the plane that hit the pentagone fly around it, why wasn't bush rushed to safty the moment he was informed. Why didn't the USAF launch a singule air craft when the detect the plane off there flight path.

And what about your evidance? What evidance legal evidance have the goverment got supporting the Muslim conspiracy theory (yes it's a theory too.)
What evidance is there that the 19 "terrorists" highjacked these flights, what evidance is there that Osama Bin Ladin actuly exsists? Weres your evidance?

Theres more than one theory. It's just a matter of fuigering out which one is right. Yeh I could be wrong, but untill you can supply legal evidance that these muslims highjacked thos planes and that Osama Bin Laden actuly planed the entire attack.

[Ciwawa]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

I've missed the point unk? 

[lompocus]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Too often the whole organization is deeply embedded into the local population. Besides, we've killed terror leaders over and over again and new idiots just keep on taking their places.

Jedi: You're missing the point.

[AmPM]

SS Totenkompf, actually later in the war they were no longer made up of guards or involved in the prisons.

A few of the SS Divisions were never found guilty of war crimes, and this in the post WW2 era as well.

Anyway, why should you play with the kiddy gloves on if the terrorists aren't? Europe is very much terrified of starting another war. Guess what? They declared war on us, with no borders and no front lines. The easiest way would have been to destroy the entire country, but people don't like that idea much so we are trying to make it a hostile environment for terrorists to operate.

Don't worry, if some terror cell bombed Unkn0wns school he would push to have some money and food sent to them to make them happier, then they wouldn't hurt anyone else...or they would learn that not only are there no repercussions but they get rewarded for their actions.

[Ciwawa]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Too often the whole organization is deeply embedded into the local population. Besides, we've killed terror leaders over and over again and new idiots just keep on taking their places.

Jedi: You're missing the point.

Errr if you bomb the entire population you risk to create more enemy of how you can kill in a day (ant spawn-effect)

[AmPM]

But if there is no population left....

[Ciwawa]

But if there is no population left....

what are you trying to say??

i hope you are not suggesting a genocide lol

[lompocus]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Too often the whole organization is deeply embedded into the local population. Besides, we've killed terror leaders over and over again and new idiots just keep on taking their places.

Jedi: You're missing the point.

Errr if you bomb the entire population you risk to create more enemy of how you can kill in a day (ant spawn-effect)

:_. And this is why you guys are impossible to argue with. You guys go to the worst scenario instantly. There's a word for it that one of my buddies mentioned the other day, it's a method of writing where you default to the most extreme and implausible method for solving a problem.

Again, I refer to chewbacca.

AM: Finally someone else see the light! Besides, the point isn't to kill everyone. It isn't to kill anyone. It's to make everyone cooperate. But granted, if there weren't anyone left...

[Draygon]

OMG some of your theories and thoughts are...well, silly.  I wont go further than that though.  I WORK in the intelligence community, and for the most part just laugh at the "theories" presented here.

[AmPM]

Nah, there are plenty of perfectly friendly Arabs in other countries that aren't hosting terror cells and training camps. Its not the elimination of a race, its the elimination of a culture.

Which is coincidently how ever nation was formed in the first place, by one dominant culture removing all others.

[lompocus]

OMG some of your theories and thoughts are...well, silly.  I wont go further than that though.  I WORK in the intelligence community, and for the most part just laugh at the "theories" presented here.

a european one?

[Jedi1]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Jedi: You're missing the point.

How. Your saying Conspiracy theorists never do any reaserch, I'm saying check google and have a look at some of reaserch before you say we havn't done any. And are you going to show me legal evidance that Osama Bin Ladan is responsibal for the 9/11 attacks.

[roflmao]

Theres more than one theory. It's just a matter of fuigering out which one is right. Yeh I could be wrong, but untill you can supply legal evidance that these muslims highjacked thos planes and that Osama Bin Laden actuly planed the entire attack.

Where is the proof BUSH did it all? Lets assume all the false lies conspiracy theorist come up with were actually true. They still make the most insane false correlations anyone could make.

And, talking about coincidences, why is it that every single conspiracy theory on the planet ALL attack the goverment?

How. Your saying Conspiracy theorists never do any reaserch, I'm saying check google and have a look at some of reaserch before you say we havn't done any. And are you going to show me legal evidance that Osama Bin Ladan is responsibal for the 9/11 attacks.

No reasearch? Take a good look at this site :
www.debunking911.com
Now come back and tell me if we don't do any research.
There have been more then 1000 pages of report all on 9/11, how can a 20 page "research" done by two college students that weren't even at the event (9/11), and that know almost nothing about advanced physics and mathematics, create a "theory" that explains the event better then what was observable by thousands of people, and the research of people who dedicate their lives to this type of stuff?

[Ciwawa]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Too often the whole organization is deeply embedded into the local population. Besides, we've killed terror leaders over and over again and new idiots just keep on taking their places.

Jedi: You're missing the point.

Errr if you bomb the entire population you risk to create more enemy of how you can kill in a day (ant spawn-effect)

:_. And this is why you guys are impossible to argue with. You guys go to the worst scenario instantly. There's a word for it that one of my buddies mentioned the other day, it's a method of writing where you default to the most extreme and implausible method for solving a problem.

Again, I refer to chewbacca.

AM: Finally someone else see the light! Besides, the point isn't to kill everyone. It isn't to kill anyone. It's to make everyone cooperate. But granted, if there weren't anyone left...

Because what i think is "you cannot start a war hoping all will go fine like in hollywood film, you have to calculate all like a chess game and get lot of support"

If you basic send mass of men into a foreign country even if they love you will start to be hated, people start to want you out of theyr land.

Maybe i'm wrong or just paranoic.

But % is why i prefer diplomatic way to the bloodbath

[AmPM]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Jedi: You're missing the point.

How. Your saying Conspiracy theorists never do any reaserch, I'm saying check google and have a look at some of reaserch before you say we havn't done any. And are you going to show me legal evidance that Osama Bin Ladan is responsibal for the 9/11 attacks.

They key is, we already know he is a terrorist leader. He should be killed either way. We know he is because we funded him when he was fighting the Soviets. Just like we knew that Iraq had WMD at some point because WE SOLD THEM TO SADDAM TO FIGHT IRAN.

[lompocus]

hmmm i think unknow was trying to say

"if they cannot arrest them will send a commando squad and take theyr leader. not make the civial population paying for theyr crime"

Jedi: You're missing the point.

How. Your saying Conspiracy theorists never do any reaserch, I'm saying check google and have a look at some of reaserch before you say we havn't done any. And are you going to show me legal evidance that Osama Bin Ladan is responsibal for the 9/11 attacks.

your missing the point.

[roflmao]

Jedi, loose change is not research, its nonsense.

[Jedi1]

But how do you know Osamas turned on the US? How do you know hes behinde thos sepcific attacks? And maby you are right and it wasn't the goverment. But still how do you explain all the anomalys. If you want to see evidance just search google. Hvae a look at this site:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

And still what is your evidance that it was Osama Bin Ladan. Give me links to sites with the evidance or some thing. But if there is an abundance evidance and any body who belives in the conspiracy theorys is ignorant then please show it to me.