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martin_the_monkey2
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Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:06:42 pm »
it has cost me a total of 31cp to get it and i just dont know what its mean to be it don't seem to kill men that good and almost every time i try to go 1vs1 with a panther, tiger or king tiger i loss i understand the tiget and king tiger but the panther im at a lost when an axis player can get one for 0 cp and my Pershing cost me 31cp
maby its just me and if that is the case any tips on how i should be using my Pershing? because at the moment it seems like i just wasted my cp's i should have just saved up for the duel rocket racks
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Demonic Spewn
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:16:29 pm »
Remember the Pershing has a .5 accuracy modifier when moving. It is a slugfest tank. Use the "H" button to stop your tank when it's about to fire.
Basically, try to get used to how fast it fires and stop your tank when it's about to shoot, allowing you full accuracy.
Short of quite a bit of vet on the Panther, a Pershing should beat it 1v1 handily, especially after the 2.3 buffs.
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Forefall
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:17:45 pm »
Perhsing is a big panther, that does way more damage to infantry, and more damage to tanks. It only lacks in range.
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Demonic Spewn
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April 19, 2008, 02:19:23 pm »
Quote from: Forefall on April 19, 2008, 02:17:45 pm
Perhsing is a big panther, that does way more damage to infantry, and more damage to tanks. It only lacks in range.
Nope, sorry, wrong, gg, gtfo my internets, etc.
Panther is a very fast, long-ranged anti tank platform. It has not many more hitpoints than a medium tank, but omgwtf frontal armor, good speed, high accuracy, etc.
Pershing is a somewhat fast slugfest tank that can take on infantry.
They are used -very- differently.
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Ucross
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April 19, 2008, 02:39:01 pm »
I agree with forefall. You use the pershing like you would use a panther on axis. except it's better at both anti-infantry and anti-tank.
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AmPM
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:41:29 pm »
The Pershing is basically a Panther, but with a bit better anti infantry and less range.
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BoDyBaG2224TLS
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April 19, 2008, 02:41:52 pm »
But should a T3 ability that costs more then a Panther (I think). Have to be used like a non-doctrine tank that is almost as good at it (and equally good, in specific conditions).
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jackmccrack
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:42:30 pm »
True, the Pershing is the Allies slugger tank.
Halt it right before it fires to take advantage of its accuracy. Its frontal armor can take a decent beating too.
I don't know why you're losing to Panthers though. Just stay within their range, a full-health Pershing has enough power to take on a Panther and a few Stugs at the same time or dispatch a pair of P4's pretty easily.
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ReapersWarrior
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 02:42:50 pm »
the pershing is alot more intimidation then a panther.
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Demonic Spewn
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April 19, 2008, 02:43:48 pm »
I either use my Pershings or my Panthers very strangely then...My Pershings generally roll up and start blasting shit, whereas I usually try to use the Panther's speed and range because of its low hitpoints.
Keep in mind Jack vet. If a Panther has vet, it automatically has 25% more effective hitpoints... I could easily see a vet 0 Pershing losing to a vet 1 panther.
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BoDyBaG2224TLS
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April 19, 2008, 02:44:09 pm »
intimidation does not kill stuff.
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jackmccrack
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April 19, 2008, 02:45:53 pm »
Well maybe a vanilla Pershing will lose to a vet 1 Panther, but not a Next Generation Pershing.
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ReapersWarrior
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April 19, 2008, 02:46:40 pm »
yes, that is true, but when i see a pershing i know i have to back the hell up or im going to get owned. a panther can be chased away by an AT gun.
no matter what you should always be supporting your tanks.
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jackmccrack
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April 19, 2008, 02:48:11 pm »
With Pershings though, you can have more than one in your company and still have a decent company.
With Panthers, bringing more than one would be kinda weird and maybe even ineffective.
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GammaCommander
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 03:01:55 pm »
A Pershing will probably win against a Panther, however, the Pershing's acceleration is half of the Panther's. If you stop your Pershing to fire, the Panther will be able to escape. This makes it harder to use the "stop and fire" technique because if you stop, you're not going to get moving any time soon.
The Pershing is probably the best Tank Destroyer in the game. It can beat any tank short of a King Tiger. But where the Pershing truly shrine is when you're using it against a medium tank, a Panzer 4. Just like the Panther, both tanks are better off fighting targets that they can easily defeat.
Maybe instead of 50% turret rotation, we should get 50% increase acceleration for NextGen Vehicles.
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martin_the_monkey2
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 04:09:51 pm »
thanks everyone i will defently be using the H key to stop fire
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GammaCommander
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April 19, 2008, 04:17:41 pm »
Quote from: martin_the_monkey2 on April 19, 2008, 04:09:51 pm
thanks everyone i will defently be using the H key to stop fire
You might wanna reconsider. The acceleration of the Pershing makes it impractical to stop and fire as opposed to the Panther. When fighting a Panzer 4, get as close as possible for increased accuracy while moving. Same would apply to the Panther because you are technically, the bigger tank.
Against a Tiger, you won't have to worry about it escaping. In that scenario, stopping and firing would be practical.
Or if you've got plenty of Jeeps, you might wanna sneak one behind to block the enemy tank.
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jackmccrack
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April 19, 2008, 04:26:22 pm »
I personally don't chase after Panthers with my Pershings unless I really need to finish them or if I have a blocker aka jeep. Acceleration only means escape to me, and the Panther is good at both giving chase and escaping it.
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CatinHat
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April 19, 2008, 04:27:31 pm »
i keep my Pershings close to my lines or even behind them. I only place them if the axis made a push with tanks and are behind our lines.
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Demonic Spewn
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Re: Pershing what is it mean to do?
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April 19, 2008, 04:28:06 pm »
A pershing is unlikely to chase down anything smaller than a Tiger anyway. Your choices are either
a) stop and fire, making it slightly easier to escape, or
b) Miss constantly.
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