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nairrti Offline
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2008, 12:15:49 pm »

follow the trend of a large percentage of this community and not play them in future.

Do not agitation players.

Leiarde and AfterEffects were high ranked player in COH and OF, they are extremely skilled player, you know. But their only problem is they cant speak english well.
You guys are doing kinda agitation players and intrigue they are stacked, spammed and rude. But truth is, you Anderson do match stacked game and stomp noobs also. If you dont agree open your play log. Then Leiarde and AE will do too.



Plus. You couldnt beat Leiarde and AE, did ya? You lost 7 games in 8 matches with them.




I guess you are revenging them with these fraud and trickery in forums.

Deny these, if you are not.



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GamerAndy Offline
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Posts: 477


« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2008, 12:23:52 pm »

IN the fourms EIR states that "You are esponsable for your own conneciton" multiple times. 

YEa this ain;t the right thing, Once it hits 5 mins i never abandon no matter what. 

But at the same time, reading up on the rules and the multiple threads and the repeated phrase"you are responsable for your own conneciton" i cna see how people would feel. 

PLus. 

Retreat your units off the field.  Make sure they are off before 5 mins.  If the game ends it doesn;t report.  heck, kill off that at gun with a mortor if you have to, it won;t matter because eveyrthign will be reset and everythign will be alive. 

My favorite part is when you quoted a passage from the Official Drop/Lagout policy that doesn't apply, since this game never made it past the -3:00 mark, much less the +5:00 min mark

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php/topic,4508.0.html

Seriously, if you actually read the rules instead of just copying and pasting you'll notice that all of these "the game must continue" and " desyncd games play on" only applya fter the first 5 minutes - It is common knowledge that if a game desyncs, crashes, lags out, etc. before 5 minutes then it DOES NOT COUNT AND SHOULD BE REHOSTED OR ABANDONED

I think its great they let kids like you post - Like they say, if you can't be a shining example you can at least be a horrible warning
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Aggamemnon Offline
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2008, 12:25:23 pm »

I've had a few games with leiarde etc and they lagged the first game out when they were losing towards the end (one quitting out).

When they were winning it was fine but it lagged a little all the way through.
I've heard of them voting people off, but again this is a typical vanilla CoH response, but when you only do it when you're losing then it's obviously a try to take advantage.

Seems they definately try to play it to their advantage, but are fine if they are winning. If english is their second language then I'm sure a pm with a link to babelfish etc with some basic ground rules would suffice.
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GamerAndy Offline
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2008, 12:26:04 pm »

Man i'm not playing for XP, place in leaderboard etc. And i don't play stacked games. Just look at my wins kd/ratio and ask ppl. I think u should agree with this cuz i don't think anybody will do something with that. When i played with rahx many times everybody dropped and axis team loosed (when game was us). Dunno why we are loosin when everybody drops from the game. I loosed 3 games in this way :-/

This thread wasn't targetted at you Draken, the farmers in question are Lierde and aftereffect
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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2008, 12:27:10 pm »

I have no clue if it applies but just a general note (& my own opinion Wink)

If certain people are refusing to play with certain individuals, and try to convince others to do the same, without a solid & justified reason (Drophacking/Kicking/Exploiting) than those people should definately be reported for harassment.

Stacking itself is hardly an arguement. If people are stacking, deal with it, play or don't play but don't make a whole scene about it on ventrillo/chat. (Which then triggers others to do the same and leads to the exclusion of certain players). No one's forcing you to play a stacked team, if you think a team is stacked, don't play and STFU about it.
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GamerAndy Offline
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 12:30:44 pm »

I have no clue if it applies but just a general note (& my own opinion Wink)

If certain people are refusing to play with certain individuals, and try to convince others to do the same, without a solid & justified reason (Drophacking/Kicking/Exploiting) than those people should definately be reported for harassment.

Stacking itself is hardly an arguement. If people are stacking, deal with it, play or don't play but don't make a whole scene about it on ventrillo/chat. (Which then triggers others to do the same and leads to the exclusion of certain players). No one's forcing you to play a stacked team, if you think a team is stacked, don't play and STFU about it.

The issue here is two very highly ranked players refusing to abandon a game where one of the low ranked players crashed in the first 3 minutes of the game.  By the time the axis (offending team) was able to deploy (they were attacking) the entire allied side had quit and were waiting in a rehosted game.  The axis players chose to stay in the game that now had no allies in it and wait until it was 5 minutes into the offensive before quitting so they would get the win

Nobody is saying don't play them, I'm just wondering since when this was okay to do?
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GamerAndy Offline
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Posts: 477


« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 12:32:31 pm »

follow the trend of a large percentage of this community and not play them in future.

Do not agitation players.

Leiarde and AfterEffects were high ranked player in COH and OF, they are extremely skilled player, you know. But their only problem is they cant speak english well.
You guys are doing kinda agitation players and intrigue they are stacked, spammed and rude. But truth is, you Anderson do match stacked game and stomp noobs also. If you dont agree open your play log. Then Leiarde and AE will do too.



Plus. You couldnt beat Leiarde and AE, did ya? You lost 7 games in 8 matches with them.




I guess you are revenging them with these fraud and trickery in forums.

Deny these, if you are not.



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Who are you talking to?
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CaptainAmerica Offline
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 12:34:28 pm »

Quote
You guys are doing kinda agitation players and intrigue they are stacked, spammed and rude. But truth is, you Anderson do match stacked game and stomp noobs also. If you dont agree open your play log. Then Leiarde and AE will do too.

I would actually love to see it.
I'll show anyone mine. But i would absoulutly love to see theirs.
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 12:35:16 pm »

I was referring to niarriti's post Wink.

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The axis players chose to stay in the game that now had no allies in it and wait until it was 5 minutes into the offensive before quitting so they would get the win
This is not even possible, if an entire team drops, normally the game ends. There's a 5 minute game timer for a reason. Either this was changed or it was just one of those cases where Relic Online didn't end the game. OR someone on that team did in fact not leave/leave units on the map.

To be honest, our current drop policy is hardly satisfactory and I even doubt right now anyone has time to police these kind of things, as unfortunate as that may be. In addition, this is reall not the place to be discussing this in the first place.

If you have issues with certain players for whatever reason, bring them up with the person responsible, posting them on the forums will have no effect.
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BradAnderson Offline
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Posts: 1233



« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 12:35:56 pm »

follow the trend of a large percentage of this community and not play them in future.

Do not agitation players.

Leiarde and AfterEffects were high ranked player in COH and OF, they are extremely skilled player, you know. But their only problem is they cant speak english well.
You guys are doing kinda agitation players and intrigue they are stacked, spammed and rude. But truth is, you Anderson do match stacked game and stomp noobs also. If you dont agree open your play log. Then Leiarde and AE will do too.



Plus. You couldnt beat Leiarde and AE, did ya? You lost 7 games in 8 matches with them.




I guess you are revenging them with these fraud and trickery in forums.

Deny these, if you are not.



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Guzdi
basically yes i do hate them for losing apparently 7/8 games but it was more like 3/4 and it dosnt matter how good u are at vcoh 9times outta 10 it wont make u a better Eir player for example i beat  AE's panther with an unuppguned sherman w/o Tungsten Tipping, skillfull i think not. i DID stack teams farm noobs but that soon got boring so i changed but u know what almost 5k xp each kinda shows something every time i see the war reports its that little team against allied players i never seen b4.... like andy said earlier its a "brad" phenomenom Roll Eyes they have massed vet 3 volks and grens from killing and farming noobs but now playing every one with their massi vet blobs. in past 4 or so games w/o their vet they would have been raped something rotton.
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GamerAndy Offline
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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2008, 12:37:22 pm »

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Sach Offline
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2008, 12:40:17 pm »

Pain ful on the eyes, maybe a screenshot would be better.

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BradAnderson Offline
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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2008, 12:40:26 pm »

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2008, 12:41:35 pm »

Andy why you gotta pick on Brad?  I am on thin ice in the fourms so now you have to pick on someone else? 

Leave the kid alone man.  And stop hijacking every thread you post in just to argue with someone and repeadly talk about nothing.  Please.  I am asking from the bottom of my own cold dead heart. 
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Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2008, 12:44:39 pm »

Andy why you gotta pick on Brad?  I am on thin ice in the fourms so now you have to pick on someone else? 

Leave the kid alone man.  And stop hijacking every thread you post in just to argue with someone and repeadly talk about nothing.  Please.  I am asking from the bottom of my own cold dead heart. 

Do what you want puddin, I really don't care
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2008, 12:46:01 pm »

Brad, was that massive list entirely required?
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2008, 12:51:15 pm »

Wow I didn't realize this thread would devolve into this . . . Its a pretty simple question really. And seems like it has been answered. Before five min. rehost or abandon. These two players did not do that. seems to me that if you want to keep an EiR community alive with players there should be some sort of penalization towards abusive players. Can an admin post here please.
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GamerAndy Offline
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2008, 12:52:51 pm »

play log attached,
lets see their what kind of games it takes to get a 6000xp company

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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2008, 12:55:31 pm »

chage file name

noname1.txt-> noname1.html

how write HTML code?

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nairrti Offline
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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2008, 01:01:02 pm »

follow the trend of a large percentage of this community and not play them in future.

Do not agitation players.

Leiarde and AfterEffects were high ranked player in COH and OF, they are extremely skilled player, you know. But their only problem is they cant speak english well.
You guys are doing kinda agitation players and intrigue they are stacked, spammed and rude. But truth is, you Anderson do match stacked game and stomp noobs also. If you dont agree open your play log. Then Leiarde and AE will do too.



Plus. You couldnt beat Leiarde and AE, did ya? You lost 7 games in 8 matches with them.




I guess you are revenging them with these fraud and trickery in forums.

Deny these, if you are not.



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Guzdi
basically yes i do hate them for losing apparently 7/8 games but it was more like 3/4 and it dosnt matter how good u are at vcoh 9times outta 10 it wont make u a better Eir player for example i beat  AE's panther with an unuppguned sherman w/o Tungsten Tipping, skillfull i think not. i DID stack teams farm noobs but that soon got boring so i changed but u know what almost 5k xp each kinda shows something every time i see the war reports its that little team against allied players i never seen b4.... like andy said earlier its a "brad" phenomenom Roll Eyes they have massed vet 3 volks and grens from killing and farming noobs but now playing every one with their massi vet blobs. in past 4 or so games w/o their vet they would have been raped something rotton.

Generally, You guys can make match with vent, dont you? But Leiarde and AE cant b'coz they cant speak English, as I wrote before. So ALWAYS THEY ARE WAITING OPPONENTS IN PUBLIC ROOM. They do never choice opponents. Why always stacked? b'coz they cant interaction with their teammates with vent or chat in games. If you guys team up with them, you can see some strange characters in chat window. Yea, we use Koreans. (One guy told use Babelfish, NO TRANSLATORS CANT TRANSLATE KOREAN-ENGLISH SATISFACTORILY IN RACENT TECHNOLOGY even Google, Babelfish.)

If you are saying this is stacked probly its stacked. But you say that is newbie stomping, I say they dont. They are just playing with random opponents.

And, They had too many vet 3 squads? DONT KILL ALL YOUR SQUAD MEMBERS, THEN YOU CAN MAKE SO TOO. Why is that is problem? Even if not involved squads can get xps when you won, as you know.




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