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CaptainAmerica Offline
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« on: June 03, 2008, 11:52:57 am »

We were very bored and decided to form a team vs the Koreans.

Very intense battle. Leiarde down 1000 XP, After Effect down 700.

Lessons learnt:

Axis infantry with Volks is very underpriced.
Axis PanzerShreks are slightly underpriced.
Defensive veterncy gain rate is too high.

Whoever said Axis quality vs Allied quanitiy. Watch the replay.

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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 11:53:56 am »

I doubt anyone ever said axis are quality and allies are quantity. Certainly not in EIR. Wink
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Bodybag2224-Armor Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 11:58:34 am »

I need days to post our game against the koreans. If we had actually tried for the first 10 mins we may have won, but we gave them quite a run for their money.
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Draken Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 01:51:21 pm »

Lessons learnt:

Rangers undepriced
Ab underpriced
RR underpriced
Sherman underpriced
Calliopie and howie reload time to short
Riflemans squad to cheap
And much more...
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|-|Cozmo|-| Offline
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 01:54:04 pm »

in the words of thtb: sarcasmen!
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 01:55:25 pm »

Volks are underpriced but then thats nothing new.
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Would people please stop killing my AVREs. Not cool.
Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 02:14:47 pm »

Rifles are overpriced.
Units should have been balanced mainly on their combat performance, not on the population they take.
(Which caused the balance problem with riflemen/volks to begin with.)
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Thtb-Ally Offline
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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Posts: 1812


« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 02:15:54 pm »

Rifles are overpriced!
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Bodybag2224-Armor Offline
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Posts: 735


« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 02:18:00 pm »

Lessons learnt:

Blah blah
Blah blah
Blah blah
Stug underpriced
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah....

Fixed.
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stumpster Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 03:39:05 pm »

ITT we see fanboys.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 04:02:35 pm »

Rifles are overpriced, reduce to 200.

STuGs to 140fu
STuH's to 120fu

Axis Grenade reduce to 25mu
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nated0g Offline
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2008, 07:10:49 pm »

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Lessons learnt:

Rangers undepriced
Ab underpriced
RR underpriced
Sherman underpriced
Calliopie and howie reload time to short
Riflemans squad to cheap
And much more...

Are you serious?
Good god man.
You really have no clue. That or your attempt at sarcasm fails. Go play allies.

Calliope Realod 160 vs Stuka Reload 60
Rifles 210 vs Volks 175 (With Terror its 157)
RRs 210 vs 2x Shreks 220 ( Dmg:RR 65x2, Shreks 120x2)
Rangers, 360 MP/80 Munitions. Oh brilliant. But my SMGs are 170munitons upgrade so 360MP/230MUN.
Airborne is the only one i can agree on.

But seriously, dont talk rubbish, think before you complain.
Go ahead and whip out some facts. I'll match it.
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Leaflar Offline
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Posts: 24


« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2008, 07:17:08 pm »

Rifles are overpriced.
Units should have been balanced mainly on their combat performance, not on the population they take.

plus

Axis Grenade

equals

axis grenade gives you munitions since it takes away time that your guys could be shooting real weapons.

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Warbirds2 Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2008, 07:17:15 pm »

I will whip out some facts.  Your data on Axis prices is severely outdated.
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 01:42:32 am »

Rifles are overpriced, reduce to 200.

STuGs to 140fu
STuH's to 120fu

Axis Grenade reduce to 25mu

That'd be a good start =).
(Although I'm not too sure about the StuH)
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Dr.Nick2 Offline
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Posts: 280


« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 02:25:51 am »

I'd like to give a crack at fighting these korean vet whores
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Clock Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 53


« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 02:41:35 am »

I have some problems with this replay, it works but every player does stupid things like charging hmgs or leaving a snipers under costant fire. What can i do to fix this? BradAnderson and Guzdi left after 60 seconds in that replay, and i can't believe it.

edit: oh i have found a solution.
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Thtb-Ally Offline
The German Guy on the Ally side?
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1812


« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 06:21:03 am »

Sidequestion; WTF does ITT  mean?
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Clock Offline
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Posts: 53


« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 02:19:57 pm »

All ok now, I simply had a previuos version of the map.
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Novox Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 172


« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 01:07:11 pm »

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Lessons learnt:

Rangers undepriced
Ab underpriced
RR underpriced
Sherman underpriced
Calliopie and howie reload time to short
Riflemans squad to cheap
And much more...

Are you serious?
Good god man.
You really have no clue. That or your attempt at sarcasm fails. Go play allies.

Calliope Realod 160 vs Stuka Reload 60
Rifles 210 vs Volks 175 (With Terror its 157)
RRs 210 vs 2x Shreks 220 ( Dmg:RR 65x2, Shreks 120x2)
Rangers, 360 MP/80 Munitions. Oh brilliant. But my SMGs are 170munitons upgrade so 360MP/230MUN.
Airborne is the only one i can agree on.

But seriously, dont talk rubbish, think before you complain.
Go ahead and whip out some facts. I'll match it.

w/e you do. DO NOT COMPARE Shreks to RR's... rr's are 50x better then useless shrek's. Compare accuracy rates and penetration rates. not only damage... i get anoyed when people make it look like shreks are better or at par with RR's... when they arn't even close.

Rifleman are 139 mp with both price reductions in infantry company.
Yet volks are 107 or something with Tenacious Faith in defensive.

Either way, i don't think that any company other the Infantry should be using rifleman as a main fighting force.

note : people complain about allies too much. If you play them right, you can rape axis. But it's not question that learning allies is harder then axis, but you just made it seem that axis are overpowered, where infact, they are not even close.

-I agree with AmPm
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