Why VCoH Sucks?

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[aloha625]

i talked about 3 AB blobs at the same time with 2 or more RRs each..everyone wanna fight them with tanks..nubs

ill post the replay and ull see what i mean

[Draken5]

Guys sorry, it's easiest to say l2p but truth hurts. Watch my replays when I counter alone 6 squads of airborne, and seriously how can blobing unit be and exploit, axis can do that as  easy as allies, so wtf. Just combine your forces + little micro , and u can beat them.

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[4thRangerDivision]

Aw geez

Its a warzone! Take cover.

Tym was right in the first post <3 cheers mate!

Anyway,

negative sides of VCoH would have been a best post imo. Not see a flamewar without flamethrowers.

Buut, why VCoH Sucks.
Discuss why VCoH Sucks.
Its negative sides only and my top10 ish there =D

I don' mind AB blobs anymore nor Ranger blobs. EiR Taught me how to beat them so it was l2p in the end x) Ostwinds weren't good though to bunch of RR blobs. Not even vet 3...xD
Anyway, keep it calm lads. I don like flame wars. If you have to argue fight in Ventrilo and say outloud your opinnion why VCoH Sucks.

[suckisucki]

but anyway how is an only vet3 unit company with 100rbs of a stacked team not fucking OP against vanilla companys?

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[HeartBreakOne88]

This is why i hate vcoh,

Just had a game , it was double wher vs double blits, brits harrased us a bit with bren carrier but we got back and start building up, straight away they started buling trenches and arty spam , i couldnt cross because of the 17pounders, so i got 3 stuckas and 4-5 squads of kch (the game wouldnt end) and stuka the crap out of the emplacements, the rocket artyiswell, either way both us wher charged with at least 7 pantehrs various lmg shrec squads and cleard them out , spread out as much as possible  considering only to get constant off maped, BOllox, so we went 3-4 times and again, all units vet3 , double lmg grens with vet3 are gods, atatck attack only to have a commando unit to drop at the victory point every so often only to gget arty'd by his own , priest. but we woulsdnt move in, it was an awful game that went on for 2 hours of various spam, BUNKERS IN VCOH are absoulutely fuked , we managed to get behind there lines every so often but they just dug in,  i dont mind ppl playing brits but playing like his was shit, at 1 point my self i had 4 vet3 panthers and they spamed 17ers everywhere 1 made with 3 vet3 KCH squads, i took out at least 3 fireflys with it because they attacked my facing there ass at me then 1 flanked me and got some shot with 17ers,.............................


however the only good thing about vcoh is 1vs1 ranked, solid gameplay where every unit is needed,,....ive only played teh american campaign  but just started the brit and pe and god dam is it easy, you cannout loose , heck in 1 of teh pe missions you charge with you units a small bit of hiding infantry and you win.

[Kolath]

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[SSPzDivision]

Cheers mods, that was needed to stop the flame war.


Meh.

Anyway. HeartBreakOne I suppose you played Vire River Valley? It sounded like that because its the map where are choke points and good spots to spam 17pnders. Each 17 pounder is like WTFPWN same with Brit Emplacements. The Vickers is ok but the Mortar pit...its like a WTFPWN thing imo...nothing destroys it D: except 2 min fire fight against it.

Anyway. I've tried 2vs2 ATs...always a Brit and US...Brit spams emplacements...US spams MGs...Snipers and in the end greyhounds...they push up and force axis weak tier 1 units back...mortar takes care of Axis strongest tier 1 unit aka MG42 etc... =( 2vs2s are broken in VCoH...but I suppose they are balanced in 1vs1s

[KriegesTeufel]

I personally like EiR far better than vCoH because of the more balanced mix of units it encourages.  I just love that right from the get-go, literally any unit in the game can be on the field, so your company has to be set up to deal with an early tank rush, a bunch of snipers, arty, etc. etc. as well as balanced play.

One of the first things I noticed when I came to EiR was how terrible I was with support weapons; this was because in vCoH I would pretty much always take a commanding lead in the early game with engis/pios, hold it with volks/rifles, and then just survive until I could get tanks.  I got up to lvl 11 in 1v1 ranked with this method and minor variations, and I though I was pretty hot sh1t... until I came to EiR.  I pretty soon learned the value of combined arms though, and now whenever I go back to vCoH, it really bugs me how effective spamming is and how practical it is.

I know there is perennial griping about gimmicky companies with lots of one type of unit and how overpowering they are, but I have yet to come across a situation in EiR that could not be won with the intelligent application of a well-mixed force.  I wish the same could be said of vCoH.

[Schultz]

I know there is perennial griping about gimmicky companies with lots of one type of unit and how overpowering they are, but I have yet to come across a situation in EiR that could not be won with the intelligent application of a well-mixed force.  I wish the same could be said of vCoH.

Exactly how i felt too :p
Combined arms ftw.

[Smokaz]

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
What makes it so damn bad?
Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
Why Did you stop playing vCoh?

1# DropHackers
2# Noob Stompers
3# Smurfs
4# Only The Scheldt with High Resources and Fixed and full of n00b brits who comp/noob stomp
5# Blobs that always comes back
6# Stuff never ends
7# Arty spam
8# People with epeen higher than lv 100 = ("Omg Lets take 2vs2 I beet craph utta u!11!!11!!Eleven!!!1!!","Wanna 1vs1? I bet I beat u esily u n00b" etc x) )
9# Laggy players who still keeps high settings
10# No-teamwork

That's my top10! (Its more like top9 but bleh)

I've bolded the things that make EIRR fun.

[NightRain]

o my o my, its still alive

[Armfelt]

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
What makes it so damn bad?
Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
Why Did you stop playing vCoh?

No filter for high resources and bridge maps. That is what bugger me off the most.

But I would still play VCoH and Eirr if my internet allowed me to do so. It will be fixed soon.

The good thing with VCoH is that it is more casual to me than EiRR. But EiRR got a gameplay that appeal me. So "both" games are good in their own way.

[Grundwaffe]

I've bolded the things that make EIRR fun.

Rofl, 1+.

Vcoh and eir is all the same, eir just got a different gameplay.
I think vcoh and eir are both great but vcoh is all the same which i get tired of and then go eir for a bit

[COHCommando]

it is diffenernt EIRR HAS Commando sniper

[3rdCondor]

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
ANSWER: It's not EIR

What makes it so damn bad?
ANSWER: It's not EIR

Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
ANSWER: It's fun

Why Did you stop playing vCoh?
ANSWER: It's not fun

[Tymathee]

wow, epic thread necro

[NightRain]

:looks into future: I see this thread being locked!

Its still open, nubito <3

[bayarea510]

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
ANSWER: It's not EIR

What makes it so damn bad?
ANSWER: It's not EIR

Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
ANSWER: It's fun

Why Did you stop playing vCoh?
ANSWER: It's not fun

[Tymathee]

Its still open, nubito <3

meh, go figure, i'm not the prophet i thought i was but man look how long that was posted, january 2009, my first post was in july of 08, been here 2 years, did u know i never played vcoh mp b4 i played eir lol i played maybe twice after that and hated it. viva la EIRR