Allies Still OP?

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[Tymathee]

Just wondering if those same who thought allies were OP still think so after the recent Axis sustained offensive. It looks like you guys are actually learning how to counter those thing you called "OP" now.

[DiBBs]

whats OP?

Allies have been getting hit unusually hard recently.

[SSPzDivision]

Actually I still find the blobs of doom rather OPish.

you simply get less as Axis and you have to counter more vs allies...130 mp cost on Riflemen- and the fat lady sings when 1 grenadier squad is run down by 3 blobs of riflemen...

Artillery- Axis still lacks arty and gets doomed by it most of the time.

Air superiority don't get me started on with this

OBM We all know it repairs too fast

Raid Assault. You know, you can clear RtC from every support weapon by just 1 drop...happened once with Empiricalmethod.

Tank Reapers, you know what this is- too OP

Its simple the fact that good people went to play as Axis now...they got bored on stomping allied infantry...and now allied players are new players...the tide will change sooner or later

[Tymathee]

wow....sounds like what I said to the allied op post long ago hmm...

[Solo Wing Pixy]

Actually I still find the blobs of doom rather OPish.

Will you ever get over it, What about lmg shreck blobs

[Wildfire]

^ agreed. Allied almost have to blob. We've only got one kind of mainline infantry thank you, axis have volks and grens and then every doc gets kch so you can specialize, not so much allied.

[VictorTarget]

Hmmm.  And having subversion take out four call-ins from your company isn't game-breaking?  I can generally hang on by my nails against most axis players, but losing even two call-ins devastates me.

And that's not something that could significantly affect a game, while having a bunch of riflemen is horribly OP?  Hmmmm, I see.  Wait, no I don't.  Sorry.

[jackmccrack]

Nerf Riflemen, they are too rifle-y.   

[DuckOfDoom]

Hmmm.  And having subversion take out four call-ins from your company isn't game-breaking?  I can generally hang on by my nails against most axis players, but losing even two call-ins devastates me.

And that's not something that could significantly affect a game, while having a bunch of riflemen is horribly OP?  Hmmmm, I see.  Wait, no I don't.  Sorry.

I am with Victor on this one, here is my 2 cent:

Subversion is un-countrerable.  You CAN counter Tank Reapers with infantry/artillery, You CAN (it is possible at least) dodge strafing runs/bombing runs/1 second artillery, you can outlast the Raid Assault airborne (or just suppress them), but there is NOTHING you can do to counter Subversion or Sabotage.

In my opinion, if you are unable to counter an ability , it is definitely overpowered.

[Tymathee]

n/c nuff said

[Deterrence]

I can get Volks for 137mp   

[Tymathee]

I can get rifles for 130mp

[Hoarder]

The volks he buys for that price are already vet 1

[MannfredvonRitter]

Why don't people for once try backing up their accusations with proof and data and logical arguments, rather than just bitching about how something is OP...

The axis players currently were the ones getting stomped before, allies have new players now, so they receive a stomping. I play both teams quite a lot and I find allies substantially easier to play with and in general less pedantic. nuff said

[DiBBs]

OP= over powered?

FFS internetz people type the damn words its not that hard :p

[Tymathee]

Why don't people for once try backing up their accusations with proof and data and logical arguments, rather than just bitching about how something is OP...

The axis players currently were the ones getting stomped before, allies have new players now, so they receive a stomping. I play both teams quite a lot and I find allies substantially easier to play with and in general less pedantic. nuff said

im not saying neither side is OP, there used to be an "allies are OP" thread a while ago before it all went the other way, just wondering if people still think that, and obvoiusly not.

[31stPzGren]

It is still OP. I find it easier to win with Air Superiority than on Axis without T4 arty.

[nugnugx]

IMO the only OP thing about allies is the arty , 3v3  vs inf ab and armor usualy ends up vs 3 arty guys

[Schultz]

Rifle nade and bren tommies, sappers with piats and rangers and bar rifles!! Who's afraid of the big bad blob ?

[MistenTHA]

IMO the only OP thing about allies is the arty , 3v3  vs inf ab and armor usualy ends up vs 3 arty guys

Allies need artillery to fight decently against the Axis. While allied vet 1 is superior to axis vet 1 in combat, once axis infantry hit vet 2 they become incredibly hardy. When you see a vet 3 volks squad without mp40s wipe the floor with 2 vanilla riflesquads it's scary. Then stuff like single zeal LMG grens etc.

Axis tank vet is noticeably better as well. Vet 1 is superior to allied vet 1 since it promotes longevity, vet 2 gives skirts and more health. Allied tanks don't usually live long enough to get to vet 2 unless your armour coy.

My experience is that vet 1 and below allies have it a lot easier but once you have vet 2s allies just get totally owned. Getting vet 2 with axis infantry isn't that hard since Mp40s, LMGs, MP44s and Shrecks allows you to gain exp fast. Rifles kill much slower and die much faster.

That only way to equalise that field is with off-maps and artillery.