v0.0.3 Changelog

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[Mysthalin_Axis]

All I can say is that the brits have already been made usefull when the emplacement set up time was fixed, and piats were fixed to actually hit stuff, and be able to cloak.
All these new buffs to them are not that necesarry, though will help vs epic campdowns.

[DeadlyShoe]

Looks good, mostly. Though... reducing the ATHT to 3 pop won't end well.  It might make sense if it was just a sticky platform but focus fire makes it better than any infantry squad...it's expensive in munitions but talk about popcap efficiency.  Goodness just compare it to the pop on armored cars, which have minimal AT ability.

[Khorney]

there's a bug with the 25 pounder - the building itself takes up 6 cap to deploy, in addition to the units you bring on - thus, if you are at max cap (well, not even that, 6 is alot), you cannot put it down. fix plz.

[DuckOfDoom]

Wont the changes make the atht even more effective, since green health repairs are alot slower (and the atht got a price buff)? I do agree that PE needed more at options though, so I guess that does solve that problem to an extent.

its fucking useless to discuss with people like u

kill yourself in real life

[Lionel-Richie]

there's a bug with the 25 pounder - the building itself takes up 6 cap to deploy, in addition to the units you bring on - thus, if you are at max cap (well, not even that, 6 is alot), you cannot put it down. fix plz.

I think this bug is with all of emplacements, as well. Mortar emplacements costs 1 pop to put down as well as 17 pdrs.

[Tymathee]

its fucking useless to discuss with people like u

kill yourself in real life

well just look at his name, he acts just like one but off that...how long til we see the doctrines?

[salan]

we'll fix the bugs with the emplacements as fast as possible.

Mmm foo not working? Someone shoot the testing monkey !

and the repair rates of American/Wehrmacht/British base unit is equal, the PE are slightly behind due to their main infantry being their repairers.

Wehr took a bit of a fix as they were previously almost 2x as effective for their population then the rest of the factions.

[GenSturm]

What about rep. rate of Luftwaffe infantry?

[The-Goatlord]

Pio and Pgren repair rates should be swapped.

More arty = lame as all fucking hell bullshit. So... hurray for bugs
That's one I hope never gets fixed.

Hurrah on changes for the most part.

[wildsolus]

nice changes, only thing that feels off to me is the price of the quad and skirts for axis vehicles... stickies are worthless now especially since you have to pay for vet 2 to get the longer range to get close to em.

and quads should be at 225-260 imo, just seem way overpriced for basically a 'hit or miss' type unit.

[salan]

nice changes, only thing that feels off to me is the price of the quad and skirts for axis vehicles... stickies are worthless now especially since you have to pay for vet 2 to get the longer range to get close to em.

and quads should be at 225-260 imo, just seem way overpriced for basically a 'hit or miss' type unit.

quads were always 350 in EIR, they mistakenly were priced in at their upgrade cost and not the actual combined cost.

Stickies haven't changed, unless I am missing something, and this is the cheapest they have ever been in EIR's history.

[salan]

Thank you for including the hotfix in this release, I had to use it, for some reason my autoupdater will not update the files and even now after using it, if I run the updater it wants to overwrite my updated files again.

anyone else having this issue?

[MistenTHA]

Stickies haven't changed, unless I am missing something, and this is the cheapest they have ever been in EIR's history.

I believe he means that with skirts being standard on every axis tank, which reduces penetration, and hence the chance of the sticky bomb being a dud, and combined with the almost close range suicidalness of sticky bomb usage unless you get vet 2 with rifles, they aren't as effective as they used to be.

[wildsolus]

yea sorry i wasn't clear, misten said it perfectly.


because i know if i buy vet 2 on a few squads of rifles, they will be focus fired and killed almost immediately before they can get a sticky off that might be a dud on the cheaper skirted axis tanks.

[The-Goatlord]

What with skirts being cheaper sticky prices could feasibly be lowered to compensate. But cheaper skirts are a great change. What with RRs never ever missing except for maybe once in a game I played last year.

Skirts only lower the damage by like 50% so it's not like it makes hand held AT useless. And on P4s its only lowered by 10 munis. Stugs are shit at killing infantry and stuhs are easily countered by AT guns and other tanks. If I'm not mistaken the skirts effects against AT guns and tank guns is negligible.  

[UnLimiTeD]

There is no effect...
Still, StuHs are by far not easily counterable by ATGs.
17", maybe.

[Absolution2]

Skirts in this mod are not beta skirts, they do not reduce handheld penetration rate, only damage.

[rai0]

r devs workin on "Victor Target" ?
  without this r 25ps llittl bit useles.
 
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[MistenTH]

Skirts only lower the damage by like 50% so it's not like it makes hand held AT useless.

At the current point in time, without doctrine buffs, increased repair rates and prevalence of skirts, allied hand held AT is quite close to worthless atm IMO.

Bazookas - Poor accuracy at long range, decent damage, but means nothing if it can't hit. And even if it does hit, it will bounce off more often than not. Don't talk about flanking, realistically the most ideal you can fire handheld AT is at the frontal armour of a tank at medium range because the tank will usually be supported.

RRs - Good penetration, good accuracy. But with skirts (at 50% damage reduction?) they deal 34 damage per RR. If both RRs hit you get about 68 damage. You will need 18 RR shots to penetrate to kill a P4 with 600 hp. RR is also currently the most expensive handheld AT in the game.

PIATs - Poor damage, poor accuracy. The only decent thing perhaps is an initial shock with PIAT ambush, and possible chance to hit rear armour from the front. If you hit.

And in all cases, even after you get off handheld AT hits, the axis tank can now be repaired quickly with multiple repairs. And attrition losses of infantry cannot be replaced as easily.

Handheld AT is also not much of a deterrance at the moment against some axis heavy tanks as well.

By comparison, axis handheld AT is much better. They hit more often, deal more damage to non-skirted allied tanks, and can skirt extreme range of machinegun cover without getting suppressed to get their shot off.

The most effective anti-tank capability allies have to depend on right now is the 57mm and firefly, primarily due to range and then damage. Handheld allied AT at the current point in time is a joke.

[jackmccrack]

I thought skirts were -25% penetration and -25% damage, are they not?