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« on: May 09, 2009, 04:20:45 am » |
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Okey so to perform better i have some questions regarding ''the math part of coh'' So a list of units that is better upfront or at distance would be nice  For example we know rifles beat volks at close range. Or sherman beat p4 upfront or if it was vice verse  I would like some of this data for especially ac cars and pe soldiers. |
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| Bubz
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 02:38:49 pm » |
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I can give you the datas about AC
It rapes everything a part from armored vehicles.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 02:44:32 pm » |
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I wonder how your ACs die to engineers. I really do.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 02:47:53 pm » |
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they can, theoretically
ibubz said they rape everything apart from armor. yes they can, theoretically
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 02:52:00 pm » |
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Not theorethicaly, actualy.
ACs do defeat all infantry, except, sometimes, the recoill-less rifle.
PIATs, zooks are both kiteable, you never get in close range to bren guns to avoid getting buttoned, you can kill of riflemen at range as well, to avoid stickies(if any). So it's hardly theoretical at all.
Whereas it's just not possible, at any range, for an engineer to defeat an AC. It just doesn't happen. If we're going theory - a jeep can kill a pershing, and it's happened in practice too, but it won't happen on a consistant basis.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 03:04:47 pm » |
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- a jeep can kill a pershing...
Lies! That would be teamkill, that's not possible! A bike on the other hand... |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 03:10:58 pm » |
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typo...
Or rather, a schwimmwagen is basicaly a jeep!
MUAHAHAHAHA
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| panzerjager1943
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2009, 04:10:47 pm » |
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For Panzer Grenadiers, like how Riflemen will beat volks at short range, Flamethrowers and Grenades are more powerful vs. Panzer Grens then against any other Axis soldier.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2009, 04:13:00 pm » |
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PE PGs? lol and u nerfed them again
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 04:28:51 pm » |
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someone needs to go read up on soldier armor.  |
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| VariantThirteen
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2009, 10:11:38 pm » |
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PGs lose in practice at almost any range to almost any comparable infantry force if unupgraded. With G43's, they win at middle and long range, with StG44s they win at close and medium.
ACs win in practice at all ranges against most threat types. Exceptions being close and medium against zooks and RR's.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2009, 04:08:54 am » |
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PGs lose in practice at almost any range to almost any comparable infantry force if unupgraded. With G43's, they win at middle and long range, with StG44s they win at close and medium.
ACs win in practice at all ranges against most threat types. Exceptions being close and medium against zooks and RR's.
nah g43 also suck.. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2009, 07:12:37 am » |
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typo...
Or rather, a schwimmwagen is basicaly a jeep!
MUAHAHAHAHA
schwimmwagen is a kübelwagen germans never had such crappy jeeps |
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| Guderian
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2009, 07:52:48 am » |
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The question is:
Is it better to move up my ac car/pe soldiers up close?
Does ac car gain any huge effectiveness bonus up close?
Does pe soldiers beat ore is it worth it to close up against rifles/paras/tommies etc.
For me: i just want these two.
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| Stingraygun
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2009, 08:02:32 am » |
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The PE Kar98 is almost identical to the gren and volk ones. The Volk does 10 damage, the PG does 12, and the gren does 15. Other than that, in terms of accuracy, ROF, and all that other BS, they are the same. In conclusion, use them like volks or grens, keep them at long range vs other infantry. Edit: Ah, Shit, forgot I just made a new profile, this was Leafedge. Sorry for breaking the smurf rule.  |
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2009, 08:30:46 am » |
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Of course, they also come in squads of 3 rifles and have the same HP as volks, but with a funny armour type. In all seriousness, PGs lose to Rifles at anything but long range. You HAVE to yield ground to rifles.
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| Guderian
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2009, 08:41:24 am » |
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Okey check:
Now i would like to know the eir vet tables for the ac car and the ??emense?? effect of the ac car moving up close thank you.
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| VariantThirteen
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2009, 10:41:17 am » |
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coh-stats.com
there is a thread with vet as well
Now do something for yourself. Jesus.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2009, 11:50:44 am » |
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yet stats have changed for this mod
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| Guderian
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 01:15:30 pm » |
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coh-stats.com
there is a thread with vet as well
Now do something for yourself. Jesus.
Wtf are you talking about? As said by two stats have changed. And really, i have never ever seen you around and here you show up to offend me like i have done this many times before.
Now do something for yourself. Jesus. Wtf man, all i asked for was a little help. Whate hell is your problem? I ain't going to take someone just commenting about me like that. I have never seen you before. So don't comment like i have been an ''annoyance'' to you. |
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