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[Two]

bigdick tells the truth.

And with the amount of bars atm kch just get suppression fired :/

[Akranadas]

You're probably doing it wrong then,

[Mysthalin]

I agree, KCH are rather obsolete in the current enviroment - not enough rifles and airborne to kill for them to be useful, at all. And the quads... sheesh, set their availability to 2(same for ostwinds, srsly, there were 47 ostwinds made in the entire war, and we get 4 in each company?), and their popcap to 7. Them quads are just spammed to no end right about now :S.

Panzerfaust nerf also hit the KCH, panzerfaust should be reverted to vEiR values, IMO.
MG42s on tanks only available at vet 1 and skirts at vet 2, as it used to be - have you actualy seen how well that top MG suppresses? You get yourself a top MG or 2, and can dance the happy dance, no more HMG42s for you!

[CafeMilani]

I agree, KCH are rather obsolete in the current enviroment - not enough rifles and airborne to kill for them to be useful, at all. And the quads... sheesh, set their availability to 2(same for ostwinds, srsly, there were 47 ostwinds made in the entire war, and we get 4 in each company?), and their popcap to 7. Them quads are just spammed to no end right about now :S.

Panzerfaust nerf also hit the KCH, panzerfaust should be reverted to vEiR values, IMO.
MG42s on tanks only available at vet 1 and skirts at vet 2, as it used to be - have you actualy seen how well that top MG suppresses? You get yourself a top MG or 2, and can dance the happy dance, no more HMG42s for you!

i've never suppressed any swuad with them actually

[Two]

Suppression on the tanks is stupid, drive right into a blob and they insta suppress same with ht's.

[Mysthalin]

2 bursts at medium range suppress rifles, actualy .

[Bubz]

I actually think relic really messed up with suppression in this patch.

[Mysthalin]

I actually think relic really messed up with suppression in this patch.

geez, you'd think volks getting insta-pinned by SF while in heavy cover at medium range would be intended .

[Akranadas]

It's our Anti-Bubz code working 

[EscforrealityTLS]

Haha class work, now to get onto the fecking thing!

Also what Mysthalin said a few posts up about vet dependant stuff I second that.

[deadbolt]

I agree, KCH are rather obsolete in the current enviroment - not enough rifles and airborne to kill for them to be useful, at all. And the quads... sheesh, set their availability to 2(same for ostwinds, srsly, there were 47 ostwinds made in the entire war, and we get 4 in each company?), and their popcap to 7. Them quads are just spammed to no end right about now :S.

Panzerfaust nerf also hit the KCH, panzerfaust should be reverted to vEiR values, IMO.
MG42s on tanks only available at vet 1 and skirts at vet 2, as it used to be - have you actualy seen how well that top MG suppresses? You get yourself a top MG or 2, and can dance the happy dance, no more HMG42s for you!

The supression with them on stugs is retarded, you can spam stugs and then glide over all the supressed rifles like you were ice skating.

[Pasqualle]

Are there any other statistics?
for example:
Is the kill count (infantry, vehicle, armor, building) per unit (and par player) saved? It is displayed in the game.
How many times the stickies (or any special ability) were used?
Most played maps?

If you need any ideas for a detailed stats, check this leaderboard:
http://www.rulez-server.de/modules.php?name=bf2s_ges (I know it is not CoH)

[Draken]

The supression with them on stugs is retarded, you can spam stugs and then glide over all the supressed rifles like you were ice skating.

lol stickies?

[Nijo]

ofcurse are their vet 3 Rifels!

[Tymathee]

I love how you guys whine about about how many Rangers there are on the leaderboard vs KCH but nobody seems to see how many Grenadiers there are in terms of Rifles, and well, everything. There's more grenadiers on the board than any other unit other than stormtroopers, so please don't whine about rangers to me when you get stealth storms and double schreck grens with 100% penetration.

I swear, the wehr side whines so much about stuff. L2P. Wehr is very strong if you know how to use it. I don't, I'll admit it, I'm not very good at wehr, but those that are good with it, kick my ass with it. If you aren't good at playing wehr, then don't, there's 3 other sides to consider.

[Pak75mm]

Is there a better way? Leaderboards in EiR have never accurately depicted who the best of the best is. And unfortunately there's too many variables and won't ever get an accurate reading of who the best is.

yup plus everyone afraid of vet hunting pretty much avoids playing each other either ways lol

[Malevolence]

Nobody is gonna get a lot of vet 3 KCH because either you treat them like babies and won't kill shit. Or you try to use them in an effective way, what means they will get killed pretty soon.

No, nobody is gonna get a lot of vet 3 KCH because of A) British Uber Blob which can fight back against KCH effective, and there's no Fatherland Defense to let them tank like crazy (a vet 3 KCH squad in original EiR had more HP than most tanks, plus heroic armor, plus suppression resistance on the level of fired up rangers).

[Tymathee]

^ Agreed. KCH were nearly unkillable in old eir, especially ast hey vetted, you couldn't surpress them. I even once had two bar's suppression fire going and two hmg's on one and it just ran right htrough them, and didn't even get damaged

[Mysthalin]

^ Agreed. KCH were nearly unkillable in old eir, especially ast hey vetted, you couldn't surpress them. I even once had two bar's suppression fire going and two hmg's on one and it just ran right htrough them, and didn't even get damaged

I remeber when I had SF, an HMG42, 2 30 cals and a quad shooting at a vet 2 KCH squad once.. They died before they got suppressed, but they managed to kill a 30 cal before that.

[Bubz]

Tym, vet 3 gave Kchs the feat: UNSUPPRESSABLE