AmPM
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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2009, 11:01:26 am » |
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But of course you would never use a Quad because it also has that burst bug right?
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wildsolus
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2009, 11:48:13 am » |
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you also might have bigger probs if u spam m8s, t17 and clowncars, but u wouldnt have any probs if u use them WITH ATGuns as support
simple, isnt it?
i have to say: deal with it. deal with the bug, we all have to
i dont spam m8s t17s or clowncars and I have plenty of at guns and support for them. you pull way to much shit out of your ass just to try and make yourself correct. But of course you would never use a Quad because it also has that burst bug right?
where did I say you shouldn't use a unit because it has a burst bug? i just wanted to know if the availability could change to reflect the current balance with the unit oh and ostwind = 4 availability quad = 2 availability |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2009, 11:55:07 am » |
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Latest patch went like this :
Ostwind popcap 11 => 10
Quad popcap 5 => 7
Quad availability 4 => 2
And I specificaly remember someone from the developer team saying that the Ostwind 4 availability was a typo(I think it was Nevyen that said it?), and should be either 3 or 2...
I guess wildsolus is seeing insult on top of injury here - not only do quads get a nerf, but ostwinds actualy get a buff, which is what peeves him off more than the ostwind's actual firepower. Even with burstbug the ostwind is quite OK.
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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2009, 12:15:34 pm » |
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I can't understand why even if both vehicles are affected by burst bug only one of em got nerfed, nothing wrong with the nerf but still only one...
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 01:30:19 pm » |
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I can't understand why even if both vehicles are affected by burst bug only one of em got nerfed, nothing wrong with the nerf but still only one...
The burst bug on the ostwind does very very little. It fires three shots in three seconds, then it coolsdown for only one second before it fires another burst of three. So at best you only skip one second. The burst bug on the quad is a little more powerful, but still not omgwtfpwn. Only on armored cars and pumas that have 5 second cooldown between bursts does the burst bug massively increase dps. |
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2009, 01:31:41 pm » |
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Well I should frap when the ostwind rapes two guys a hit only to reset its cooldown and shot even more. It's not so unnoticeable.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2009, 01:32:43 pm » |
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Well I should frap when the ostwind rapes two guys a hit only to reset its cooldown and shot even more. It's not so unnoticeable.
Yes, on the ostwind its a 33% increase in dps. On the puma its a 200% increase in dps. |
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2009, 01:35:26 pm » |
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Puma, Quad, Ostwind are all affected by burst bug. Even if you say it's 33% only it still kills squads in no time because of this. probably because it has less shots but far mroe powerful and even one can make a difference.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2009, 01:51:39 pm » |
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With burstbug, an ostwind can take out 3 inflight airborne squads no sweat.
Without burstbug, it will kill 1 landing squad at most, the other two will kill the ostwind.
It's rather noticeable indeed.
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2009, 02:37:37 pm » |
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Why allies get only 1 Crocodile and Axis 4 Ostwinds? Both are anti infantry units, and Ostwind is good versus light vehicles too!
Something needs fixing really...
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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2009, 02:39:56 pm » |
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Don't forget how ostwinds are faster, cost 100fu less, and have somewhat less survivability (not that the last factor matters much).
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« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2009, 02:45:37 pm » |
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Well ostwinds are not supposed to be never reload machines of infantry awesomeness. But currently they are cause relic messed them up. Ostwinds themselves are not all that usefull an M10 wrecks them ATG's wreck them, it's more the timing and player actions that get units killed. I have yet to see good players get massacred by ostwinds. You all now know that Infantry clearly don't work(not that they did before to any degree of cost effectiveness) and frankly someone who has 4 ostwinds is going to lose to Tank spam
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2009, 03:30:13 pm » |
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With burstbug, an ostwind can take out 3 inflight airborne squads no sweat.
Without burstbug, it will kill 1 landing squad at most, the other two will kill the ostwind.
It's rather noticeable indeed.
Subjective bullshit. Burst bug only increases rof on the ostwind by 25%. |
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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2009, 04:02:47 pm » |
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and frankly someone who has 4 ostwinds is going to lose to Tank spam No. Nobody said you had to use all 4 Ostwinds at once, and if you do you're not very bright. 4 Ostwinds leaves you with 500 fuel, enough for a Panther, and then you can get plenty of Paks and Shrecks. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2009, 04:04:57 pm » |
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so ostwinds are a prob now?
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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2009, 05:22:16 am » |
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1 ostwind burst > vet 3 and vet 2 mando piats, vet 2 mando squad and a vet 2 tommy squad, while all retreating. -.-
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2009, 05:27:34 am » |
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we had pak mania now we seem to have ost mania
what you forget is that ostwind does what it can do only KILL INF.
atg kill ost with 3 hits , 2 hits and it has 10 % hp.
every tank > ost
he who rushes inf into ost should only get what he deserves
they only fair would be to decrease ost avail to 3 , bring back to 4 when bug is fixed
i say nerf every allied tank because it kills my ostwind w/o problem !
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Killer344
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2009, 07:41:01 am » |
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Ostwinds are also awesome against light vehicles.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2009, 07:46:24 am » |
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An ostwind can actualy take 2 57 shots AND a sherman shot, and still run away alive.
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« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2009, 07:49:36 am » |
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The burst bug on the ostwind does very very little. Thats simply not true.......each time a puma/AC/Ostwind also i think some1 said lmgs are effected as well... Each time a ostwind kills a squad member it auto reloads and dose this each time it kills a guy.......Its not a balance thing its a bug and availability should but knocked down 1 or 2 because theyve become so much more effective........ Ostwinds themselves are not all that usefull an M10 wrecks them ATG's wreck them, Its a light tank, it should die and die horribly.....M10 are Tank hunters if rather poor ones but there sole purpose is to kill tanks......hence you dont shoot infantry with them , you run them over.... If it was Airbourne and RRs got some 33% Buff bug i would garrantee people would be crying rape and demand some type of nerf i say nerf every allied tank because it kills my ostwind w/o problem ! (Ost)Anti -infantry tank vs (m10)Anti tank tank....it probably should win he who rushes inf into ost should only get what he deserves Its not about rushing infantry in its doing what ostwinds and pumas/AC do well do Op well |
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