So, what exactly are the ToV units?

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[#Freek]

Yes, I've been under a rock as far as ToV units: I know the t17 is m10 on steroids & theres a new armored car for americans.
But what exactly makes each new unit special? (wtf is the 'shitzmobile'?)

[Mysthalin]

T17 - M8 with a rapidfire gun, yet no skirts upgrade.
M18 - M10 with better sight range, less health, speed and penetration.
Staghound - Brit version T17. 450 health(Ame one has 175), super crap gun that fires every 12 seconds or so.
Kangaroo - the "bangbus". Ultimate clowncar Stick 4 squads and up to 15 men into it. 8 Will fire out of it.
Geschutzwaggen(refered to as GWG, shitzmobile, geschitzwaggen, etc) - Faster, harder to hit marder with an MG on it.
Schwimwaggen Wehr - basicaly a kettenkrad.
Schwimwaggen PE - bike with reverse drive.
Hotchkiss - super penetration, epic fail damage, decent accuracy. Good versus light vehicles, infantry and finishing off a 5 HP tank. Also has access to 4 stuka rockets.

[CafeMilani]

Kangaroo - the "bangbus". Ultimate clowncar Stick 4 squads and up to 15 men into it. 8 Will fire out of it.

6 men can fire out of it i think

[jackmccrack]

T17 - M8 with a rapidfire gun, yet no skirts upgrade.
M18 - M10 with better sight range, less health, speed and penetration.
Staghound - Brit version T17. 450 health(Ame one has 175), super crap gun that fires every 12 seconds or so.
Kangaroo - the "bangbus". Ultimate clowncar Stick 4 squads and up to 15 men into it. 8 Will fire out of it.
Geschutzwaggen(refered to as GWG, shitzmobile, geschitzwaggen, etc) - Faster, harder to hit marder with an MG on it.
Schwimwaggen Wehr - basicaly a kettenkrad.
Schwimwaggen PE - bike with reverse drive.
Hotchkiss - super penetration, epic fail damage, decent accuracy. Good versus light vehicles, infantry and finishing off a 5 HP tank. Also has access to 4 stuka rockets.

M18 has the same health as the M10 -- 400.
You have the Schwimwaggon backwards. The PE Schwim is unarmed in vCoH.

[EliteGren]

and the Wehr has a stronger MG than the Bike.

No.

[Sharpshooter824]

Yes but EiR:R gave PE the wehr schwimmwagen to give them an effective sniper counter, and just stuck wehr with the unarmed Schwimmwagen..

Now if only they'd give brits a non-doctrinal effective sniper counter!  

[jackmccrack]

and the Wehr has a stronger MG than the Bike.

No.

orly i thought it did, nm

[Demon767]

Hochkiss - Super penetration? lol it misses alot if ur not an arms length from the target lol, but it does go alright against light vehicles and infantry to some point

[Tymathee]

Yes but EiR:R gave PE the wehr schwimmwagen to give them an effective sniper counter, and just stuck wehr with the unarmed Schwimmwagen..

Now if only they'd give brits a non-doctrinal effective sniper counter! 

funny you say just stuck yet I've played against a lot of wehr players that have the unarmed wagon so i guess it's not all that bad.

[jackmccrack]

Ya and the Hotch Stuka sucks, don't even bother with it. 

[Sharpshooter824]

Nah its not bad tym, just saying 

[Latios418]

Hochkiss - Super penetration? lol it misses alot if ur not an arms length from the target lol, but it does go alright against light vehicles and infantry to some point

Look up accuracy and penetration plz, they have two different definitions.

[AmPM]

And the one he is talking about is Accuracy, the ability to hit targets. With a high accuracy shots should more or less be on target.

[Latios418]

oh shit, I didn't even notice jack knocking on hotch stuka...

best motherfucking vehicle PE gets, they're my favourite unit when I'm playing as PE and worth every PP and bit of fuel it costs for them. I usually get 30xp a game with them... then I tragically lost both my vet3 hotch and vet3 MHT within 10 seconds to a suicide tank rush and I ragequit PE.

[Captain Trek]

oh shit, I didn't even notice jack knocking on hotch stuka...

best motherfucking vehicle PE gets, they're my favourite unit when I'm playing as PE and worth every PP and bit of fuel it costs for them. I usually get 30xp a game with them... then I tragically lost both my vet3 hotch and vet3 MHT within 10 seconds to a suicide tank rush and I ragequit PE.

And this, my friends, is why I no longer bother vetting my units...

[stumpster]

Hochkiss - Super penetration? lol it misses alot if ur not an arms length from the target lol, but it does go alright against light vehicles and infantry to some point

To get the max accuracy out of the Hotchkiss you have to treat it a lot like a Cromwell (stop and shoot) instead of other light vehicles (where you can just run around ).