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Baine Offline
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2009, 12:41:05 pm »

He's saying Ge-****swagen... not misspelling it baine..

Believe me, even though this time it was on purpose i have seen it done not on purpose many times before.
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Sharpshooter824 Offline
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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2009, 12:42:30 pm »

Doesn't mean you have to call Americans stupid..  Wink
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Baine Offline
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2009, 01:12:35 pm »

Doesn't mean you have to call Americans stupid..  Wink

I didn't say that. But it may be true  Shocked
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2009, 02:36:11 pm »

heh Geschtzwagen means Cannon car lol.

i wonder if the actual gun we see in the game is the Nashorn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashorn

it's the only wagen that is gun like we see in game, the others are either artillery or modifed versions of the panthers nad p4's
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"

Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2009, 03:23:19 pm »

I just call the GWG a nashorn. Sounds cooler, and much more fitting.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2009, 03:32:25 pm »

Its not, its a field modification to fit more ATGs on mobile platforms, much like the Diana and all other HT + ATG vehicles.
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Mgallun74 Offline
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2009, 03:35:13 pm »

I just call the GWG a nashorn. Sounds cooler, and much more fitting.

most likely thats what they planned, but got lazy and started smoking some weed and just F'ed it all up... lol..  stats and graphics wise.

its said, because this game has a great engine, and how it plays etc is awesome, too bad the Stats guys at Relic are so lost they ruined any sense of realism in half the units... like say the IV IST?  i didnt think they were making too much of them in 1944, i think they meant the IIIN but just got lazy... etc, etc.

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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2009, 03:38:42 pm »

yeah, i think relic just got lazy with some stuff and just used cool units.q
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NCOIC Offline
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2009, 05:25:47 pm »

www.coh-stats.com
less speed, less armor.

Ok I dont get where the f**k relic gets its stats.... The main advantage of the Hellcat was its speed. To lose that advantage truly makes it just a slower M10. Here's the wikipedia excerpt:

"In contrast to the M10 tank destroyer, which used the chassis of the M4 Sherman, the M18 Hellcat was designed from the start to be a fast tank destroyer. As a result it was smaller, lighter and significantly faster, but carried the same gun as the Sherman 76 mm models. The M18 carried a five-man crew as well as 45 rounds of main gun ammunition and an M2 Browning machine gun on a flexible ring mount.


The main disadvantage of the M18 was its very light armor and the inconsistent performance of its 76 mm gun against the frontal armor of later German designs such as the Tiger and Panther. The open-topped turret (a characteristic which it shared with the M10) left the crew exposed to snipers, grenades and shell fragments. The doctrinal priority of high speed at the cost of armor protection thus led to an unbalanced design. The problem of the main gun performance was remedied with High Velocity Armor Piercing (HVAP) ammunition late in the war which allowed the 76 mm gun to achieve greater frontal armor penetration, but this was never available in quantity.

While the M18 was capable of high road speeds this attribute was difficult to use successfully in combat, but along with the high top speed was a commensurate ability to accelerate rapidly and change direction rather quickly.[1] Although sustained travel at road speeds was hardly ever used outside of the allied response during the Battle of the Bulge,[1] most Hellcat crews found the higher speeds especially useful in a sprint to flank German tanks which had relatively slow turret traverse speeds, and such maneuvering allowed the tank destroyer crew a shot instead into the enemy's thinner side or rear armor. In general, Hellcat crews were complimentary of their vehicle's performance and capabilities, but did complain that the open top created a cold interior in the Northern European winter of 1944-'45.[1]"

In some ways at least as stated here the so so gun is fairly representative of the Hellcat but the fact that it's speed is so handicapped makes it a wussier M10 in many ways...

Yeah yeah it's a game but that's a basic one. I wanna smack the sierra hotel india tango outta the designers sometime (relics not ours)
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Sharpshooter824 Offline
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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2009, 05:32:25 pm »

AC overdrive speed would be just plain sexy  Tongue

(and yes im joking)  Roll Eyes
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