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kwiatekkek
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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Reply #20 on:
February 05, 2011, 07:48:41 am »
and definitely not 5 POP!
since they can only recrew one piece of abandon equipment!
fair enough keep assaults and tank busters at 5 pop, but vanilla pgrens should be at 4 pop imo.
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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Reply #21 on:
February 05, 2011, 07:49:36 am »
Quote from: kwiatekkek on February 05, 2011, 07:48:41 am
and definitely not 5 POP!
afaik all main infantry is being aimed to be 5 pop , so it will stay 5 probably.
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RoyalHants
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:51:24 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on February 05, 2011, 07:49:36 am
afaik all main infantry is being aimed to be 5 pop , so it will stay 5 probably.
maybe give them 1 extra man i would like to see that tbh brings em more inline
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:53:29 am »
Quote from: RoyalHants on February 05, 2011, 07:51:24 am
maybe give them 1 extra man i would like to see that tbh brings em more inline
that would split the health on additional man , making every soldier die faster. Maybe we should go other way around.
remove -1 man and increase HP even more , so it's hard to kill the 3 guys , but then they become sort of 'elite' and not main infantry.
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smurfORnot
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:55:22 am »
so that sherman with 1 hit can kill 1/3 -2/3 of squad...
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kwiatekkek
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:55:47 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on February 05, 2011, 07:49:36 am
afaik all main infantry is being aimed to be 5 pop , so it will stay 5 probably.
all mainline inf is able to recrew 2 pieces of abandoned equipmnet while pgren can only recrew one!
you cant just make'em same pop imo. it makes no sense what so ever.
maybe we could get a veteran sgt upgrade to grant an extra member , and than 5 pop is acceptable.
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February 05, 2011, 07:57:53 am »
Quote from: smurfORnot on February 05, 2011, 07:55:22 am
so that sherman with 1 hit can kill 1/3 -2/3 of squad...
no , it could be tweaked so no one dies just hp falls down.
for example:
they have 300hp as a squad , and 100 hp per man (3 men)
1 sherman shot takes 87hp.
No one would die , but the HP would only fall down, give them medkits , and you can go away and heal.
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sheffer
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:58:02 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on February 05, 2011, 07:42:48 am
so soldier armor could return, or have a noticable hp buff around 160 ...160...
160
WUT LOL? r u seriously?
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:58:43 am »
Quote from: sheffer on February 05, 2011, 07:58:02 am
WUT LOL? r u seriously?
small changes yield little to no effects to be noticable in-game, ofcourse it's a drastic example of what could be done to make a unit useful.
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 07:59:48 am »
Quote from: sheffer on February 05, 2011, 07:58:02 am
WUT LOL? r u seriously?
he means probably per squad but that would give them still almost 100HP with soldier armor lol
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sheffer
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:10:48 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on February 05, 2011, 07:58:43 am
small changes yield little to no effects to be noticable in-game, ofcourse it's an example of what could be done.
sure. 25% hp for ab save them from death from 1 p4 shot (vet + doc etc).
Quote from: BigDick on February 05, 2011, 07:59:48 am
he means probably per squad but that would give them still almost 100HP with soldier armor lol
its very strange proposal for squad too.
I think Pzgren rework was a mistake anyway. PE needs pak and mortar (usual recrewable with long range) to stand a line with this kind of infantry, but we already have WH with grens, paks and mortar.
For now PE inf coy cant be offensive (exept FJ) because every AI stuff can kill\ supress them, but PE cant play defensive.
Nondoctrinal PE is in deadlock now.
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:13:36 am »
Quote from: sheffer on February 05, 2011, 08:10:48 am
but PE can play defensive.
Hence my suggestion, if devs want to make PE defensive faction, let's make it useful def so it acts like def.
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sheffer
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:15:42 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on February 05, 2011, 08:13:36 am
Hence my suggestion, if devs want to make PE defensive faction, let's make it useful def so it acts like def.
sryy, i mean CANT play defensive
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nugnugx
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:16:10 am »
Quote from: sheffer on February 05, 2011, 08:15:42 am
sryy, i mean CANT play defensive
uh ok
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kwiatekkek
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:36:57 am »
what sheffer?
pe dont need no recrewable paks nor mortars.
fuking hell guys what is this ?
ima aks again , do we realy want PE to become new wehr wearing different uniforms?
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NightRain
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:40:26 am »
Quote from: kwiatekkek on February 05, 2011, 08:36:57 am
what sheffer?
pe dont need no recrewable paks nor mortars.
fuking hell guys what is this ?
ima aks again , do we realy want PE to become new wehr wearing different uniforms?
isn't it already?
Wehrmacht = Axis
PE = Axis
In short Wehrmacht = PE with different uniforms
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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Reply #36 on:
February 05, 2011, 08:41:01 am »
thats why people don't like the new PE changes
but that doesn't mean that remanable mun based AT wouldn't fix some things
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:42:45 am »
Quote from: BigDick on February 05, 2011, 08:41:01 am
but that doesn't mean that remanable mun based AT wouldn't fix some things
i still think that having a efficient medium tank destroyer would be better and fit better for PE than a pak
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sheffer
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:43:51 am »
2kwiatekkek
read my post once again carefully
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kwiatekkek
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Re: [PE] PzGren Changes
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February 05, 2011, 08:46:06 am »
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