aeroblade56
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« on: November 04, 2012, 11:04:45 pm » |
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I mean typically when i play British i dont take infantry.
i spend ass much MP as i can into things that aren't infantry most times i come out with maybe a total of 40 infantry or less.
Is there a real reason to take British infantry?, it cant really play the capping game because without a officer they fight like volks with better armor and HP.
Obviously you need them to re crew your support weapons so i just take sappers and retreat the 1 man and keep the 6xp on him.
i dont know how many times people say to me dont blob >.<' but its almost impossible to get any use out of british infantry unless you blob, kinda like PE but with extra mens :p
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 12:24:17 am » |
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Canadian infantry become useful with grenades, similarly to riflemen/grenadiers/defensive volks, it's not a universal upgrade though but it probably should be.
Other than grenades there are Bren LMGs, with the reduced cost of Bren LMGs (75 MU) and British Infantry Sections (230 MP) you can have quite a lot of them. You need to keep them with LT ofc, the key is to keep the LT alive even if your other squads die so that you don't need so many LTs.
Then there are recon squads, also useful, the key is to initially use them as combat units so that most of the squad die, that way they don't take up pop but can still snipe infantry.
As for recrew, sappers can be good because of the mines but I prefer regular infantry as they can recrew two support weapons.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 12:48:33 am » |
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Well i mean what happens is you know since piats cant hit dick and button doesnt really work on LV's, a random puma or 2 will fuck up your cpt and LT and there goes effectively 30% of you infantry Ai in to shots.
Brens are great with a LT they work wonders but its keeping the LT alive thats a piece of shit to do, more often then not you will end up using the LT like a sniper and end up avoiding pretty much everything stronger then bikes.
the Recon tommies are great! the problem with them is ofc no automatic weapons so mp40 volks or anything automatic weapon gets close enough your fucked.
Bottom line i think is that the LT and CPT are a big ass hassle to micro around, you also cant help the 1 mortar shell or the hummels -_-'
I think the problem is there is no buffs in any of the doctrines to actually benefit the infantry( aside from RCA) or at least very little when compared to the accuracy buffs allies get.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 09:13:58 am » |
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thats just your play-style, theres nothing wrong with brit infantry i like to keep a recon and a bren out as forward scouting and pop shoting, been using that strategy for a long time, i dont take rifle nades, i do like the canadian inf grenade option but i always forget about 'em.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 11:30:34 am » |
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Brens are too shitty
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 11:36:06 am » |
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i would like to test this ingame.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 11:39:29 am » |
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Brens are too shitty they just dont kill quickly but they're decent enough at long range and if you use them in conjunction with other weapons can do a lot of damage.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 11:47:10 am » |
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Brens are good. They aren't bad, they aren't brilliant, they are good.
Therein lies the problem. They are a "Good" weapon in an environment where you bring the best or you bring the bare necessities (Fully upgraded inf/recrew inf). Such middle grounds tend to suffer as the fully upgraded inf chew through them and they won't be in combat with bare necessity infantry as they'll be avoiding combat by recrewing or capping.
The only true use they hold is being a part of a much larger group of "Good" units (IE, blobbing brens with a Lt/Cap) or hitting targets which can't return fire. The problem with blobbing is that it's expensive and risky where better performing infantry can do the job better with fewer number and less risks associated from blobbing. When hitting targets which can't return fire, bare necessity infantry will do the job but at a much lower cost.
The bottom line is that EiRR is an environment of extremes. You either bring everything needed to do the job or you don't. Half measures rarely cut it and will keep your enemy occupied for a short time at best (Something which is not reflected in cost).
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 12:50:04 pm » |
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The bottom line is that EiRR is an environment of extremes. You either bring everything needed to do the job or you don't. Half measures rarely cut it and will keep your enemy occupied for a short time at best (Something which is not reflected in cost).
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 02:26:34 pm » |
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I want to try Brits out. But they confuse the shit out of me. 17lbdr and Churchil croc are all i know. Any good guides?
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 02:34:35 pm » |
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I want to try Brits out. But they confuse the shit out of me. 17lbdr and Churchil croc are all i know. Any good guides?
pretty easy to use. Dont but 17lbrs. dont purchase piats. always buy 2 LTS always bring 1 ccs tanks are good. always bring 1 arty piece.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 02:38:32 pm » |
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17 Pounders and PIAT's are epic in good hands.
Skilled use of attack ground is particularly dangerous with PIAT's.
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TheWindCriesMary
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 02:38:56 pm » |
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I love brit infantry. They're my favourite mainline infantry of all four factions.
Especially if you can get a decent and reliable heal centre up on your team. With a few squads of tommies and a captain and a LT..picking up weapons as you go... you're laughing.
I love them so much I don't even put anything on them.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2012, 02:39:06 pm » |
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I seeeriously have to post my company which is based around the lowly bofors.
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TheWindCriesMary
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2012, 02:40:30 pm » |
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@Poppi: pretty easy to use.
Dont but 17lbrs. Don't listen to this. dont purchase piats. Don't listen to this. always buy 2 LTS Listen to this. always bring 1 ccs Listen to this if you keep in mind it should say "at least 1 CCS" tanks are good. This can be true but depends on usage. always bring 1 arty piece. Don't listen to this.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2012, 02:40:52 pm » |
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The Bofors is hilarious if you keep your targets in the max range kill zone though.
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TheWindCriesMary
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2012, 02:41:09 pm » |
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I seeeriously have to post my company which is based around the lowly bofors.
I just had a great game with some bofors. My RE company never leaves home without them. They are fantastic.
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