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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2014, 11:37:42 pm »

When will P4 recieve attention of some kind? They are buffing it in World of Tanks! It is a hint now aint it? Grin
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 12:31:16 am »

more like a hotbreak amirite!?!???!?!
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 02:00:08 am »

21 days for this?.

i guess dem civ 5 games must really have niko tied up

it took him awhile to decide what to research man
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies

RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2014, 09:28:45 am »

it took him awhile to decide what to research man
Mayne, deciding between Tolerance and Dilligence is diffcult, in the end I just went for Snide.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2014, 09:29:17 am »

Mayne, deciding between Tolerance and Dilligence is diffcult, in the end I just went for Snide.

u better go for fucking coding eirr tbh
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Tries to convince people he's a good guy,says things like this. Scumbag Shab.
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2014, 10:29:20 am »

EIRR doesnt work, I have no units, on the maps be victorypoints and the hole map is dark.
test 3 maps: forest, neuville and bergen
Tested and confirmed.

Has anyone had a game since this patch?
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2014, 10:32:21 am »

nope, intel in launcher says the same
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omgNiko Offline
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2014, 08:37:44 am »

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GrayWolf Offline
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2014, 10:12:15 am »

pershing, super pershing, and tiger accuracy vs inf changed to 0.75
what was it before?

0.65
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2014, 10:15:38 am »




- Pershing: Acc Vs. Inf reverted from 0.85 > 0.75.



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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2014, 10:51:19 am »

It was at 0.85 for Pershing/Tiger/SP/TA, which they shouldn't have been.

It's now at 0.75 for all heavies with the exception of the TA's ammo loadout, which is 0.6 infantry accuracy (And 0.5 for any moving inf, regardless of armour making them pretty hopeless for hitting inf when combined with their very reduced splash) for AP rounds and 0.85 accuracy for HE rounds.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
omgNiko Offline
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2014, 12:13:25 pm »

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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2014, 04:57:09 pm »


The last 3 patches we tried to alter balance with out following vCoH balance it it failed, so we tried something else, then tried something else, then put it back. How the fuck is this game supposed to get fixed it we don;t at least try shit.


Wouldn't say it failed because it strayed from vCoH balance. vCoH balance sucks massive dick anyway. It was just that some of the changes were not very well thought out and may have used a day or two to mull over - the pioneer/engie thing, for instance - any good spammer could have told you about the idea being lulzy from the ground up. There's a reason airborne riflemen never got mines.

The heavy tank buffs were something done too hard, too fast, while really not doing anything to differentiate the units. They just got better at doing what they already did, with one of the units becoming a hard-counter to what was usually it's micro-intensive hard-counter (tiger vs m10).

An example of a good and justified change is KT accuracy versus infantry. It is a slow and expensive unit, which means it warranted being able to deal with most things at least decently.
A bad buff was the change in speed. Before it made some sense to treat the KT with at least a modicum of dignity due to the speed buffs attained at vet 2 and 3; now, with it's speed being good right off the bat and the replacement buffs at vet being eye candy rather than anything truly useful - the unit just becomes a heavy brick to throw in the enemy's general direction. And that brick rarely tended to miss before, with proper aim. Now even a blind person can throw it with quite some precision.

All in all I'd say the recent string of patches have not been that bad. At least something's happening and progress, if tentative and "stuttering" is being made. Perhaps take smaller increments in buffing/nerfing units. Think more about what is the realistic change that can be expected, rather than what you "want" players to do and strive for (i.e. vet requirement for abilities on ATGs and MGs.. really?).

At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years. That alone has persuaded me to actually play a game or two again. I'm not going to complain too much.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2014, 06:56:49 pm »

At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
Such a succinct comment, I wish I had more room in my profile for this quote....
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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2014, 07:25:45 pm »

I'm sure I could find space.
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GrayWolf Offline
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2014, 11:00:59 pm »

Well, stormies were good only if the enemy couldn't manage to use recon f.e. Recon Tommies are the most badass enemy vs stormies. Well M20 is in game again, sooo...
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2014, 11:29:15 pm »

Well, stormies were good only if the enemy couldn't manage to use recon f.e. Recon Tommies are the most badass enemy vs stormies. Well M20 is in game again, sooo...
ummm active camo stealth boy stormies were retarded.

They would 9/10 instagib the jeep that spots them then run off.
And as for recon tommies, well prior to a recent patch they had next to no combat value, and require either 3 pop bren for survivability or 3-4 pop LT for combat buffs.

They would still loose to Stormies man
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