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Unkn0wn Offline
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« on: June 15, 2009, 01:05:31 pm »

Need your help to decide the faith of some of the 'less favoured' EIR maps. I'd like to make some cuts and have a map list that actually represents maps that people will play (even if only occasionally). Maps that absolutely everyone hates/avoids will be cut next big map update. Quality before quantity, I don't think there's any point in having all our new players download hundreds of megabytes in maps when we could do with a lot less.

So please comment on the following hitlist:
KEEP OR DROP?

1. Sword Beach
2. Chateau
3. Das Schlaraffenland
4. Arras
5. Hoffensturghen
6. St Laurent
7. Ghost Town
8. Viking Grave


If there's other maps you'd like to propose getting rid of, shoot.
If you think a map would be fine with a simple update, mention that as well. (Keep if updated!)

Be objective and strict:
- if it looks like shit but plays "ok" it's still shit.
- if it looks amazing but plays like shit, it's still shit
- if it looks like shit and plays like shit it's simply shit

Thanks.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 01:13:20 pm »

1. Sword Beach - Looks okay, plays slightly mediocre. drop
2. Chateau - Looks good, plays great. keep
3. Das Schlaraffenland - Looks great, plays well, some areas in the city are useless though. drop unless changes are made
4. Arras - Looks great, plays great. keep
5. Hoffensturghen - Looks meh, plays meh. drop
6. St Laurent - Looks okay, plays okay. dunno....further updates needed
7. Ghost Town - Looks green, plays well. keep
8. Viking Grave - Looks fucking green, plays okay. couldnt care less
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Lai Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 01:19:18 pm »

Links to the map threads would be helpful.

1. Sword Beach - idk
2. Chateau - bit campy, but plays better than some of the worst
3. Das Schlaraffenland - idk
4. Arras - out
5. Hoffensturghen - out
6. St Laurent - out
7. Ghost Town - pretty good
8. Viking Grave - too campy, out
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Malevolence Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 01:24:37 pm »

1. Sword Beach - Unbalanced Sectors, could be fixed
2. Chateau - haven't played
3. Das Schlaraffenland - haven't played (wtf where are these coming from)
4. Arras - drop: plays bad, looks bad, jacked straight from the campaign to boot
5. Hoffensturghen - Haven't played enough to conclude anything
6. St Laurent - meh, w/e
7. Ghost Town - Could use revision by drastically redoing left side of the map (town and hedge spam)
8. Viking Grave - Good, if a bit campy. Could use more cover in the hedge "boxes" to make approaching and clearing them easier.
9. Nuenen - It's a fucking campfest on the right/bottom (town) and a backcapfest on the left/top. Terrible gameplay, hate it, drop it.

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Das Schlaraffenland - Looks great, plays well [...] drop

Sorry, what?
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 01:27:40 pm »

I say add map changes vote later

3. Das Schlaraffenland - Out of Launcher, it wont be updated any way
4. Sword Beach - Out to big

The rest keep. Its is not like "oh noes! I cant dl 40mb!"
Tho If it taking on the server, then change it to like map packs, and make people dl map packs. somehow or we gona end up playing RtC all time due no one dl maps.

Why not keep those maps, they are
a. never updated again
b. Played sometime. They are not bad maps, and people feel diff from map to map

But puting a map vote now, when i spent like 30 hoers mapping (this weekend 13-14th)and people says stuff like "its to green" ON A MAP thats have been changed?

that is like take a shit in  someones face,
Fail Unk0wn
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Smokaz Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 01:29:41 pm »

Sword beach - needs sector fixing
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 01:33:11 pm »

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that is like take a shit in  someones face,
Fail Unk0wn

I've already removed Vierville and I've put Arras in the list. That's 2 of my maps
Despite what some think, Arras is not 'simply' jacked off from SP, only the hangars were as I doubt anyone could recreate those with the WB unless they have no life. I've put many hours into ever map just as well but I'm willing to accept criticism and even accept removal of my own maps if they dont work.

I'm aware some of your maps still need to be updated but just fixing an atmosphere is not going to make your map better.
And sometimes you'll just have to face the fact that no change is going to fix a fundamentally broken map.

So spare me of your sentiments plz.
This is not the thread for it. Every map you create is primarily a learning experience, and as long as you have people enjoying other creations of yours I don't see why you should feel so attached.

We will NOT be removing maps if they only have a shitty atmosphere setting obviously, those are things that can be fixed. Read the original post next time.
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Two Offline
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 01:41:59 pm »

1. Sword Beach - drop
2. Chateau - keep
3. Das Schlaraffenland - Dont know
4. Arras - Drop
5. Hoffensturghen - Dont know
6. St Laurent - Dont know
7. Ghost Town - Keep
8. Viking Grave - Keep
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Malevolence Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 01:44:33 pm »

Your original post, Unknown, said

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if it looks like shit but plays "ok" it's still shit.

We're getting rid of maps that look bad but play fine. That sounds like the opposite of what you just said.
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Duckordie Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 01:45:28 pm »

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that is like take a shit in  someones face,
Fail Unk0wn

you'll just have to face the fact that no change is going to fix a fundamentally broken map.

You miss understand me, I agree, if players dont play map or its "broken" then remove it.
Thats why I said remove Shaffen, its not that good.

What I AM saying is that this Tropic is posted in wrong time,
This should be made After my 7(!) maps gets redownloaded by players so they have the new version.
After the Patch, not before it.

Its like cuting down a tree due you think its not so good as it was on the carton it came in,
Let it grow for what, 1 more week then see if its same or its a fine tree.

The curents post like "need remove hedges, and green ligt" is also out dated, its like saying "oooh the earth is flat"
Eaven tho we know that the earth is round, we just need to teach people the how the RIGHT version of the earth is... aka the maps

Also Mod --> <-- maps  Not  Mod <-- push -->  maps
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 01:47:35 pm »

1. Sword Beach - drop
2. Chateau - drop
3. Das Schlaraffenland - idk
4. Arras - idk
5. Hoffensturghen - idk
6. St Laurent - idk
7. Ghost Town - drop
8. Viking Grave - drop
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2009, 02:10:53 pm »

Shlarraffen Land is okay but some of the town sectors are really useless unless you use an AT gun to knock down the hedges. I guess its okay though so keep.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2009, 02:12:59 pm »

Well TBH I like Sword Beach except that it is so huge.
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Piotrskivich Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2009, 02:22:07 pm »

Keep Hofensturghen it's a lot of fun.
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Duckordie Offline
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2009, 02:27:43 pm »

Unk0wn

People are different, they like to play different maps,

In my opinion RtC is shit, its boring and flat.
People love it any way!
Look at aloha, he got no brain, he is one of those "RtC!! RtC I only plat dust I only play dust 24/7"
But some play other maps, thats what the mod is about, make a change from the normal game.

Venue is loved, but in O:MG its hated,

This is wrong time and wrong way.
1-8 is the numbers of the maps that are played the least? Or?
Because thats what the list sould be made of, maps that are players less than others.

post top played maps and bottom played maps.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2009, 02:30:10 pm »

1. Sword Beach - Looks okay.. plays less than okay.
2. Chateau - Like it, though Plays like shit, could use an update.
3. Das Schlaraffenland - Das who?
4. Arras - Looks good, plays *okay*, could use an update.
5. Hoffensturghen - Retarded.
6. St Laurent - Looks okay, plays like Nevyen.(Shit)
7. Ghost Town - Like, love it, want some more of it.
8. Viking Grave - Haven't gotten to play the new version
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Baine Offline
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2009, 02:32:16 pm »

1. Sword Beach - Drop
2. Chateau - Keep
3. Das Schlaraffenland - Drop
4. Arras - Don't know, haven't played
5. Hoffensturghen - Drop
6. St Laurent - Drop
7. Ghost Town - Keep
8. Viking Grave - Drop

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Killer344 Offline
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 02:34:24 pm »

1. Sword Beach Looks ok, plays ok, it could use an update.
2. Chateau Looks like shit, plays like shit.
3. Das Schlaraffenland wtf is this shit.
4. Arras Looks good, plays like shit.
5. Hoffensturghen Looks ok, plays.. mediocre, it could use an update.
6. St Laurent Looks awesome, plays like shit.
7. Ghost Town Looks good, plays good.
8. Chernobyl... ermm I mean, Viking Grave Looks like The shit, plays like The shit.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2009, 02:47:20 pm »

XFD Viking Grave is pretty much nuke city.
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Killer344 Offline
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 02:48:02 pm »

It makes me remember Fallout 3 each time I play it lol.
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