gamesguy2
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« on: June 16, 2009, 01:20:00 am » |
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Those really need to be looked at. They are 50 munitions sniper rifles. Against infantry, they do better than bren guns. A squad of tommies with this 50 munitions AT weapon will beat a KCH, even with medkit active. And thats just not right. Replay attached, look at the right side engagements as thats where the guy was used often. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HKFO66UFA quick look at the stats reveal it does 60 damage with a 25% accuracy modifier vs infantry ever 2-3.5 seconds(depending on range). Plus it has the tendency to hit infantry with the scatter regardless. It needs to be heavilly nerfed vs infantry. A 0.25 damage modifier vs all infantry types would bring it inline so it doesnt rape infantry better than bren guns. |
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| Rocksitter
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2009, 01:23:30 am » |
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Just gives the allies more to blob!
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Tymathee
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2009, 01:24:31 am » |
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kinda agree. they're way too cheap for what they do and with htem being that cheap, you can put 'em on every squad. I say 100 mu.
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"I want proof!"
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Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2009, 01:25:00 am » |
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Please post replays in order to help us understand more. * DasNoob salutes. |
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2009, 01:33:24 am » |
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Well... 100 is just too much. There can be no balancing in raising somthing 2x or decreasing it 2x. Lets start it raising by 10-20 munitions and btw we need more experience with boys after all.
Getting boys rifle means you are loosing tank stopping potencial which comes with brens.
Btw who uses rifle nades? They are so out of leaque when comparing with brens or boys.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 01:35:39 am » |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 01:36:24 am » |
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Well... 100 is just too much. There can be no balancing in raising somthing 2x or decreasing it 2x. Lets start it raising by 10-20 munitions and btw we need more experience with boys after all.
Getting boys rifle means you are loosing tank stopping potencial which comes with brens.
Btw who uses rifle nades? They are so out of leaque when comparing with brens or boys.
doubling it is no problem as brens and rifle nades cost 90 and atm, boys at rifles do more damage than both of them do. |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 01:46:46 am » |
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Well... 100 is just too much. There can be no balancing in raising somthing 2x or decreasing it 2x. Lets start it raising by 10-20 munitions and btw we need more experience with boys after all.
Getting boys rifle means you are loosing tank stopping potencial which comes with brens.
Btw who uses rifle nades? They are so out of leaque when comparing with brens or boys.
Tanks can easilly kite button, and button cannot kill a tank by itself. Boyz AT rifle absolutely facerapes light vehicles and will do good damage to tank rear armor as well. Its basically like bazookas but better vs light vehicles and little worse vs tanks. What bazookas do not do is insta-gib infantry. The boyz AT rifle should not be doing anything to infantry period. It needs a damage multiplier vs infantry added to vastly reduce their infantry snipe abilities. Or it needs to cost an arm and a leg to purchase. When someone fields 12 boyz AT rifle squads and two of them stalemate two squads of KCH as well as rape light vehicles, they are stupidly OP. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 01:49:25 am » |
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Well I would be glad to see stats of boys rifle. Anyone knows them?
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| Bubz
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 01:51:11 am » |
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They may have forgotten to put a modifier vs heroic armor lol.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 02:16:13 am » |
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They may have forgotten to put a modifier vs heroic armor lol.
They havent, its much less accurate vs heroic armor compared to infantry armor. Doesnt stop them from raping KCH with the scatter. It needs the damage multiplier vs infantry heavilly decreased, not the accuracy. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 02:22:12 am » |
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like lazer gunz  |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 02:43:40 am » |
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Well I would be glad to see stats of boys rifle. Anyone knows them?
I can get some of them. What do you want, be specific? dmg = 60 acc .35, .55, .75 LMS |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 02:46:18 am » |
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Its like a freaking semi-auto sniper rifle.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2009, 02:50:54 am » |
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Reload, cooldown, scatter, incremental mod, target tables. If that would be possible, please.
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 03:00:19 am » |
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Take them out until they are fixed this is a huge problem....
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 03:01:45 am » |
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Wow....They seem a tad dangerous to Inf. How do you actually get the AT rifles? I guess its a Doc ability  |
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Draken
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 03:06:28 am » |
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I played against Boys at rifle spam yesterday (almost every tommy squad had them). I ended with stats 127 kills and 18 losses (117 xp in one game). My ist had over 80 kills and a tank kill lawl. Hard counter for them is medium tanks (or heavy of course).
But price can go up it's boring to see Boys at rifle on every tommy squad :p.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 03:08:58 am » |
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Reload, cooldown, scatter, incremental mod, target tables. If that would be possible, please.
Target table is a lot of work. I'll get like page one stuff tonight then target table and other stuff tomorrow. |
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 03:13:03 am » |
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Fixed next patch
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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