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[Atlanton]

After the nerf to panzerfausts (which was completely justified), it seems as axis players barely use them anymore.

I haven't really thought this through, so please bear with me... But anyway, what if panzerfausts had a higher chance to damage engine and destroy engine at the respective health points, but they only damage the engines of light vehicles. That way, panzerfausts wouldn't be overpowered by crippling shermans, cromwells, and pershings that get too close, but they provide a deterrent for speedy light vehicles.

What do you think? Good, bad, shit?

[Dnicee]

doesnt sound that bad imo, new ideas is alwas welcomed

[Jinker]

I use panzerfausts now to tickle shermans, and arouse pershings. Man those pershings have a long barrel...

[Warlight]

I'd use them more in my Tank hunters, but the problem is, only my Assault grens can use them. 

And in all truth there are plenty of allied things for them to fight other than trying to run down tanks. 

On a side note: the doctrain that unlocks them for my assault grens in the first place should unlock fausts for all my Infantry. 

[Tymathee]

After the nerf to panzerfausts (which was completely justified), it seems as axis players barely use them anymore.

I haven't really thought this through, so please bear with me... But anyway, what if panzerfausts had a higher chance to damage engine and destroy engine at the respective health points, but they only damage the engines of light vehicles. That way, panzerfausts wouldn't be overpowered by crippling shermans, cromwells, and pershings that get too close, but they provide a deterrent for speedy light vehicles.

What do you think? Good, bad, shit?

They're fine as is. Just like americans dont use stickies a lot, fausts shouldn't be so powerful that everyone uses them. When they were bugged, EVERYONE spammed them and tanks were basically obsolete.

[Killer344]

but, you can ignore fausts now if your tank is on green HP, you can't do that with stickies.

[Tymathee]

but, you can ignore fausts now if your tank is on green HP, you can't do that with stickies.

no you can't, they still do a good amount of damage. They also get a 1.25 dmg bonus vs shermans and they also penetrate, unless it's a pershing. You don't get that with stickies, they fail to penetrate at times, especially vs skirts. We don't get anything to save us from fausts except trying to get away from them. Also, fausts get a chance to crit in green, just like stickies. I've gotten engine damage from the new fausts in green.

http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Panzerfaust

[Killer344]

meh, do we really need to make another sticky vs faust thread?

[AmPM]

Problem: Allied tankers just using Overdrive to run over infantry and escape, M10's continuing to just run things over

Cause: No reliable crippling ability

Solution: 20 range Faust with high Engine Damage/Engine Destroy chance, slightly longer ranged than Sticky but with no immobilize

New Problem: Faust vs Sticky

Solution: Reduce Sticky to 3 Uses at 60mu.

[Malevolence]

Solution: make Panzerfaust do more damage and at yellow health on light vehicles give it a high chance for engine damage et c...

[LeoPhone]

SOLUTION:

give faust STUN abilty, so when m10s rush in, you stun them and either get out or destroy them without them driving over your troops.

ofcourse stun only affects driving, not weapons.

[SaintPauli]

but, you can ignore fausts now if your tank is on green HP, you can't do that with stickies.

They don’t even kill now. At Red (5% health) they have 75% chance of engine dam = you take another shot in the face. LOL 

[crimsonrabbit]

Soluiton: Follow Jesus.

[jackmccrack]

I like Leophone's idea...because right now Fausts are underpowered.

Last patch they were OP, this patch that are UP.

[wildsolus]

but this stun ability would be available on volks, kch, falls, and assault grens (with doctrine choice)...that's a lot of infantry with the ability to stun a vehicle compared to just volk mines, hawkins (not used) and t17s.


honestly, i see it a pretty bad idea even with the gun able to fire. maybe just on volks but i don't know if it's possible to make fausts different for different units.

[acker]

LeoPhone's idea is nice. It would probably work well, too.

[AmPM]

I don't care if its permanent or not, just needs to stop the running over.

Hey, it might be a reason to get that doctrine for tank hunters, and for people to use volks other than to recrew.

[DasNoob]

Meh, only PE need them.  Make the PE one better than the WM.

[Warlight]

You say thats "Alot" of infantry.  wll Alot of that infantry is used to ill other infantry, Fausts on assault grens or KCH are at most a "O' Shit " button. I wouldn't rush assault grens at tanks to try to stun them unless they wer coming for me. 

[spinn72]

Fausts are a defensive measure against tanks, if they attack you.  They have a chance of really critting a tank too.

If you ever want fausts to be used more often, up the Damage slightly, maybe 15%.  Most people use them in pairs and they should do around 70% of a schrek's damage with a chance to engine damage.