| Smokaz4
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« on: July 12, 2009, 04:21:03 pm » |
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Ok, so defensive gets double shreks which makes sense since they get the pak ability buffing their infantry/weapon team based AT. This is logical.
However, blitz for some reason gets the double LMG doctrinal ability while already having stuff like assault nades, double shrek storms and mp44s to spend their munis on. The lmg is also a defensively orientated weapon upgrade, in the blitzkrieg doctrine? Whats the logic here?
Wouldnt terror benefit more from the fact that they will with all probability be more grenadier heavy than blitz will, and also have doctrinal stuff buffing the LMG?
Suggestion: A unused/or unlikely to be implemented terror ability gets removed allowing for shuffling in the doctrine around from the terror t2-3s. Double lmgs is moved to terror from blitz. Blitz gets something else, which can be postponed since blitz already have numerous of their stuff implemented.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 04:41:03 pm » |
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I had heard that this doctrine choice doesn't work, it should be working 100% by what i see in the SQL..
I do tend to agree with you on the lmgs not being in blitz.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 04:56:49 pm » |
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Agreeing with this completely.
it makes sense from a fluff perspective, as well. Double damage + suppression seems like a Terror thing, not a Blitz.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 05:39:19 pm » |
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i have to agree as well.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 06:16:27 pm » |
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I agree as well. Although I thought the suppression buff on mg's ony effected mounted mg's like on tanks and vehicles.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 06:24:33 pm » |
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I agree as well. Although I thought the suppression buff on mg's ony effected mounted mg's like on tanks and vehicles.
I just mean that having 2x the LMGs would mean 2x the damage/suppression. You're correct in thinking that Intensity does not affect LMGs. (BTW, what counts as a 'mounted burst fire weapon?' Just tank MGs, or more?) |
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| Piotrskivich
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 06:29:53 pm » |
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I agree as well. Although I thought the suppression buff on mg's ony effected mounted mg's like on tanks and vehicles.
I just mean that having 2x the LMGs would mean 2x the damage/suppression. You're correct in thinking that Intensity does not affect LMGs. (BTW, what counts as a 'mounted burst fire weapon?' Just tank MGs, or more?) Having double the machine guns does not double the damage, one mg might mean the enemy is supressed, two might mean they get pinned meaning the damage is cut down a lot. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 06:32:05 pm » |
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I agree as well. Although I thought the suppression buff on mg's ony effected mounted mg's like on tanks and vehicles.
it does.. its specifically stating mounted mgs. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 06:38:38 pm » |
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I agree as well. Although I thought the suppression buff on mg's ony effected mounted mg's like on tanks and vehicles.
I just mean that having 2x the LMGs would mean 2x the damage/suppression. You're correct in thinking that Intensity does not affect LMGs. (BTW, what counts as a 'mounted burst fire weapon?' Just tank MGs, or more?) Having double the machine guns does not double the damage, one mg might mean the enemy is supressed, two might mean they get pinned meaning the damage is cut down a lot. I just meant more damage + suppression in general, not exactly 2x always. I could have worded that better. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 07:20:21 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
How about this to make it different but give each doctrine some what the same
Terror = Double lmg
Defensive = Double shcreck
Blitz = Single LMG and Single Schreck together
Idea is because grens are mainly used to support tanks and being able to handle all comers is more of a blitz thing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 07:59:50 pm » |
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I like the idea of moving the double LMG out of Blitz if for no other reason than Blitz is sort of MU starved to begin with. Its sort of a bad doctrine choice for Blitz players, and would get more play in another doctrine.
Honestly, without giving it a ton of thought, it could go in defensive - right next to the double shreck doctrine ability. Would add to the choice and direction of that battalion quite well I think.
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| jackmccrack
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 08:09:27 pm » |
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One doctrine should have double shrecks, one doctrine should have double LMG, and the last one should be able to get one of each  |
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 08:10:35 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
Intensity doesn't affect LMGs. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 08:28:58 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
Intensity doesn't affect LMGs. really? i always thought it did...always seemed like it did. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2009, 08:36:06 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
Intensity doesn't affect LMGs. really? i always thought it did...always seemed like it did. Intensity only affects vehicle mounted MGs now and is only a 10% bonus to suppression. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2009, 08:37:08 pm » |
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that sucks, even for a t1
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2009, 08:42:31 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
Intensity doesn't affect LMGs. really? i always thought it did...always seemed like it did. Intensity only affects vehicle mounted MGs now and is only a 10% bonus to suppression. so mounted as in vehicles? |
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 11:52:17 pm » |
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makes sense,k althought having double lmg + intensity is a b***h and wouldn't like it.
Intensity doesn't affect LMGs. really? i always thought it did...always seemed like it did. Intensity only affects vehicle mounted MGs now and is only a 10% bonus to suppression. so mounted as in vehicles? No, as in mounted on vehicles. Dudes in infantry halftracks don't get the bonus. The infantry halftrack's MG, the stug's MG, the wirblewind, etc gets the bonus. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2009, 01:15:31 am » |
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Yes
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