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[Raio]

my BCs r more dangerous then Maleovens KTvet3  for me !



  one Nebel shoot killed 4 men from my brensVEt3 in, BC himself stays almost undamanged. Also one destroyed BC took my (4man) VET3 brens to hell.  Bcs becomin too dangerous to use  

 

[Raio]

Received damage for units inside BCs would not be so hardCore i guess.

[SaintPauli]

Good… Trying to shoot tanks from a moving unarmored vehicle should not be you primary tactical solution…  

[acker]

In the same game, I hit someone's panzerschrek-laden IHT with a Pershing. I don't think anyone died from that hit, my Pershing's infantry kill counter didn't go up. 2 People died in the ensuing IHT crash, but not from the hit.

Aren't units in open-topped carriers supposed to take splash damage or something?

[Raio]

Good… Trying to shoot tanks from a moving unarmored vehicle should not be you primary tactical solution…  

Saint, did u c me doin this sometime ?
  no ?  sure man , im not usin BCs for PIATs. Maybe do not talk about things u dont know  


ACker, have no idea. Maybe devs can check stats  

[Armfelt]

But british can´t do anything against tankblobs now, i don´t want back the mario kart tactic, but FF´s are expensive and dual 6 lbs. can´t handle multiple tanks. Last match I played as RE and my teammates were  Commandos and US armor, We met three Blitzkrieg wehrs with atleast 2 players with heated round skill. We didn´t stand a chance when the germans sended in three  PIV, two Panthers and one Tiger...

What should we have done to handle that?

It was Carentan (city map with wide streets everywhere + ruins) so PIVs wins against ATGs/Infantry or badly hurts tanks, Panthers pwn allied armor.

Edit.
I must add that both teams had 40 pop.

[Raio]

hey guys, im talkin about BCs, not about one game

 BCs r doin insane dmg to my units in, BCs r becomin movin coffins.

[Armfelt]

I felt that the game was a good summary of what the loss of the BC have turned into. And they were mostly used pre this hotfix as a type of combined anti armor role (AT infantry inside).

As it is now the BC is rendered useless except capping territory fast with infantry inside. It is tragic but as it is now CW lost it´s most powerful unit -the mario kart  

And still are the BC more expensive than the PE clowncar.

[Illegal_Carrot]

And still are the BC more expensive than the PE clowncar.

Bren Gun Carrier - 180 MP, 15 F, 3 pop
Infantry Halftrack - 210 MP, 35 F, 4 pop

The Bren Carrier is not, nor has it ever been (IIRC) more expensive than an Infantry HT.

[acker]

IllegalCarrot, the Bren got a massive price increase a few hotfixes ago. That thread is somewhat out of date.

I just created a new account, deleted it, and created another new account to see the prices.

Bren Carrier: 230 MP, 40 FU.

Infantry Halftrack: 210 MP, 35 FU.


For some reason, this is so. You are wrong.

[gamesguy2]

I felt that the game was a good summary of what the loss of the BC have turned into. And they were mostly used pre this hotfix as a type of combined anti armor role (AT infantry inside).

As it is now the BC is rendered useless except capping territory fast with infantry inside. It is tragic but as it is now CW lost it´s most powerful unit -the mario kart  

And still are the BC more expensive than the PE clowncar.

I love my BCs, they still rape infantry and support weapons with flamers inside.   Piat clown cars were retarded anyways.

However the PE clowncar is just better(although bigger hitbox) atm.   This may or may not be a design decision considering Brits have a bunch of advantages over PE(like having actual support weapons and way better infantry).

[Armfelt]

I love my BCs, they still rape infantry and support weapons with flamers inside.

But then another problem appaers with the fact that british troops lack handheld flamethrowers.

[Raio]

gamesguy2: u r usin BCs for non Veted units, who cares about ded flame enginers : ))


illega: BCs r 230mp  40fu, pop 4

[Mukip]

The damage units inside a bren carrier can take is ridiculous.  I've seen a tank shot hit a full health BC and kill the 3/4th the squad inside from full health, if this happened to a PE or Wehr halftrack there would be hell to pay.  It was silly before when they took no damage and were immune to flames and it's silly now they take excessive damage.

[Armfelt]

Precisely, that is why B-A-L-A-N-C-E is needed, or else it will be like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFarotAqh9s

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[Armfelt]

What is the opinion of the Mods/Devs/Testers?

[LeoPhone]

Precisely, that is why B-A-L-A-N-C-E is needed, or else it will be like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFarotAqh9s

.

yes, what do the devs think about this? i want a balance change, laws of gravity needs a fix.

[CrazyWR]

But british can´t do anything against tankblobs now, i don´t want back the mario kart tactic, but FF´s are expensive and dual 6 lbs. can´t handle multiple tanks. Last match I played as RE and my teammates were  Commandos and US armor, We met three Blitzkrieg wehrs with atleast 2 players with heated round skill. We didn´t stand a chance when the germans sended in three  PIV, two Panthers and one Tiger...

What should we have done to handle that?

It was Carentan (city map with wide streets everywhere + ruins) so PIVs wins against ATGs/Infantry or badly hurts tanks, Panthers pwn allied armor.

Edit.
I must add that both teams had 40 pop.

Send in 3 fireflies, 6 AT guns, and maybe a Pershing...you'll be fine.

[LuAn]

I just had a game with two P4 Vet2 involved, and i cant imagine them being killed by CW units.

My Mk6 also lost vs a p4 head on

[Mysthalin]

And still are the BC more expensive than the PE clowncar.

Bren Gun Carrier - 180 MP, 15 F, 3 pop
Infantry Halftrack - 210 MP, 35 F, 4 pop

The Bren Carrier is not, nor has it ever been (IIRC) more expensive than an Infantry HT.

When's the last time you played allies?
Oh, right.

The bren carrier had been WAY more expensive than the IHT for like a decade before the patch that brought us Mario Karts, while being in the sorry state they are in now(lose squads inside when getting shot at by anything).

My suggestion : remove the ability to gun down the squads inside for ALL weapons, except the flamethrower.
It's just gay to lose a vet 3 squad inside a bren carrier because a nebel round landed 5 km away from it -.-