aloha623
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« on: July 24, 2009, 04:43:04 pm » |
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I thought about making the group zeal +1% buffs to + 2% buffs per man and a maximum of +20% so it wont encourage blobbing too much because i think only 1 is quite weak... PE squads (SE) only have 4 men squads and most of the the time u run around with 2 squads maximum and we wouldnt see it too many times because there are not many players playing scorched earth. now i really dont want mysthalin post in this topic, everyone else can (and is invited)  would be nice if devs could delete his posts if he does because i dont want this topic closed after 3 hours thanks |
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| BradAxis
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 04:48:41 pm » |
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why not, if you blob against my Hmg i'll just strafe your silly blob, or blob you back.
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 04:48:58 pm » |
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Wow, really feels like Im running a pre-school rather than making a mod....
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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| LuAn
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 04:50:17 pm » |
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http://www.coh-stats.com/Ability:Group_ZealAre those numbers correct? How big is this Radius of 10 ingame? On a side note: EIRRMod you should post such things into the achievement thread 
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| BradAnderson
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 04:50:21 pm » |
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Can it be nap-time soon?
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| aloha623
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 04:55:37 pm » |
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Can it be nap-time soon?
i dont want to make it a nap-save ability and thats why its +20% max. but yeah, easy to counter with offmaps :S or just MGs |
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| aloha623
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 04:56:14 pm » |
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salan told me it uses the exact same stats |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 05:02:09 pm » |
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Radius of 10 is about the grenade throw range of a rifleman.
So your guys have to be basically humping each other to get benefits of group zeal.
I think the radius needs a large increase, then maybe change the received damage to received accuracy.
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| aloha623
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 05:03:30 pm » |
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Radius of 10 is about the grenade throw range of a rifleman.
So your guys have to be basically humping each other to get benefits of group zeal.
I think the radius needs a large increase, then maybe change the received damage to received accuracy.
so do you agree with +2% per man or not |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 05:04:38 pm » |
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Radius of 10 is about the grenade throw range of a rifleman.
So your guys have to be basically humping each other to get benefits of group zeal.
I think the radius needs a large increase, then maybe change the received damage to received accuracy.
so do you agree with +2% per man or not No. And Salan agrees, too high a percentage and sometimes you get ridiculous situations. Increase the radius so you don't have to blob in the same spot and maybe change to received accuracy(which helps a lot more against tanks) and it will be good I think. |
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 05:20:54 pm » |
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Theres not even a white healthbar which would indicate a buff in HP, is this even working?
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 08:50:26 pm » |
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If there won't be an increase to 2% per man then at least make it so each man gives 2% less recieved accuracy that way the blob that will most likely form will survive better against splash damage from shermans. Keep the health increase per man 1% though if 2 % is just to good.
I also agree in a radius increase in group zeal.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 08:52:38 pm » |
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If there won't be an increase to 2% per man then at least make it so each man gives 2% less recieved accuracy that way the blob that will most likely form will survive better against splash damage from shermans. Keep the health increase per man 1% though if 2 % is just to good.
I also agree in a radius increase in group zeal.
Dude, you're not listening. You're not getting 2% anything, try 1.2%. My suggestion would be increase radius to 25, change the received damage to received accuracy. So in the end it looks like this: 1% more hp and 1% received accuracy for every man in range. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 08:54:14 pm » |
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leave it as it stands in Vcoh and make it a t2 ability.
That way its less work to impliment and allows for a pretty good balance. Compared to other t2 abilities, it wont be overpowered. perhaps cap it at 10% or something if you must. But airborne and other t2 give somethign like 15% reduces inc acc, and thats does not rely on squads being close together or on how many men are within the radias.
discuss that
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 08:57:32 pm » |
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leave it as it stands in Vcoh and make it a t2 ability.
That way its less work to impliment and allows for a pretty good balance. Compared to other t2 abilities, it wont be overpowered. perhaps cap it at 10% or something if you must. But airborne and other t2 give somethign like 15% reduces inc acc, and thats does not rely on squads being close together or on how many men are within the radias.
discuss that
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Tymathee
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2009, 09:21:17 pm » |
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i thought it was a T2 ability...
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| pqumsieh
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2009, 09:43:36 pm » |
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no, its t3 atm.
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salan
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2009, 03:15:46 am » |
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its at 20 now actually.. and 1.2
i doubt it needs anymore tweaks ... its strong, but not TOO strong.
people whine about blobbing, my reply honestly as a pe player would be, take away the ability, i'll still play the same way without it. you solve nothing therefore your complaint is invalid simply because of the zeal!
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