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[Draken]

So we came from fals buff to fals nerf lol?

[CommanderHolt]

well I find them balanced, they don't promote unskilled mad rush on enemey, you have to stay in cover, and wtfpwn with FG42.

So thats it then a defensive unit that cloaks in cover and cannt hold territory while cloaked? 

Not being able to hold territory while camouflaged does also have it advantages. It will (probably) lower the allies guard down so they won't expect their capping Rifles/Engineers to be devastated by a Squad or 2 of Fg42/G43 Falls in ambush in that sector which will then recap the sector once they are done with the enemy infantry.

[zinser7]

the assault bonus is bloody pointless when considering how shit it is in no cover and running.

What you gotta understand is how Good FJ's are when vet 3 and with Buffs ok. the fact is every elite infantry are awesome when vet 3 and will be feared on the battlefield, but when its vet 0 its so easy to counter, with anything, rangers,airborne,commandos.

Ive always thought my FJ's were overpowered, quite substantially, nothing could take them on, not even 3 commandos squads on top of them, thats how good they are if used properly.

you just have to use them correctly and with caution as its a very very fragile unit, just like the rest of PE, you really need skill and good perception to play as PE.

Considering how much its costs, even though i would hate saying this very much as it will f up my new company hard, in the average players hand, with how much damage it can put out, its cost should be raised to atleast 300mp, they may have quite annoying counters that squash them like bugs, but the dps it can duke it is so great its phenomenal, and what PE unit doesnt have very low hp but can deal massive damage eh?

I also have a new PE build so come on allies i wanna test it out on you, maybe lucky to get one of my Fjs (doubt it  )

FJ's with those nasty G42's are about the only infantry I worry about with my rifles - I'm luck if they live long enough to throw a nade... put them at vet 3 and it's time to run for cover.. that and vet 3 4man KCH... pure axis evil.

[Pak88mm]

making raio and alot of others cry with my falls is the best. really.....just dont ever fucking charge falls in green cover and youll be ok. they get raped by supression fire

[LuAn]

FJ are fine imo

[Detrian]

FJs are pretty terrible!
Horrendous!
They need a buff!
Well they are not so bad
Oh yeah?
They are good for some stuff
Yeah they do a lot of damage!
Maybe too much damage actually!
They are too strong!
They need a nerf!
Nerf! NERF!

[Demon767]

2 of my vet 3 falls took on 9 tommie squads and won

[LuAn]

Man i should have come up with those for the achievements competition.

[LuAn]

2 of my vet 3 falls took on 9 tommie squads and won

You got the full buffup?

[Jazzhead5]

so FJs are godly in cover, but crap w/o it... Great unit!

where can i find some moveable green cover from which i can fight all my battles? Seriously, you cant always be defending and in green cover w/ ambush. And when you aren't, you get fucked by....rifles

[LuAn]

so FJs are godly in cover, but crap w/o it... Great unit!

where can i find some moveable green cover from which i can fight all my battles? Seriously, you cant always be defending and in green cover w/ ambush. And when you aren't, you get fucked by....rifles

Trenches maybe?
Theres also a Engineers T4 that provides infantry with green cover around a hulled down tank.
 

After some fierce fighting there are also alot of craters which provide yellow cover, its not much but it makes the ambush ability work.

[Jazzhead5]

we need something thats like a trench, but mobile. Oh wait...

There's mutherfking fallshirmjagers in the mutherfking kangaroo!! 
Rape

[Demon767]

yes full buffup

[LuAn]

Then we can surely agree that full buffed up FJ are supposed to be like that 

[HansVonLuk]

the assault bonus is bloody pointless when considering how shit it is in no cover and running.

What you gotta understand is how Good FJ's are when vet 3 and with Buffs ok. the fact is every elite infantry are awesome when vet 3 and will be feared on the battlefield, but when its vet 0 its so easy to counter, with anything, rangers,airborne,commandos.

Ive always thought my FJ's were overpowered, quite substantially, nothing could take them on, not even 3 commandos squads on top of them, thats how good they are if used properly.

you just have to use them correctly and with caution as its a very very fragile unit, just like the rest of PE, you really need skill and good perception to play as PE.

Considering how much its costs, even though i would hate saying this very much as it will f up my new company hard, in the average players hand, with how much damage it can put out, its cost should be raised to atleast 300mp, they may have quite annoying counters that squash them like bugs, but the dps it can duke it is so great its phenomenal, and what PE unit doesnt have very low hp but can deal massive damage eh?

I also have a new PE build so come on allies i wanna test it out on you, maybe lucky to get one of my Fjs (doubt it  )

What are on? So put Fjs against ranger or airbourne or anything, they still die pretty quick. OP? They have to be the worse elite inantry in the game, can you argue with that?

[HansVonLuk]

Oke i have a confession to make:
Im a dumb and pampered CW Player who just didnt know how to play PE.
So my opinion regarding the FJ can be ignored completly.


Thank you very much Smokaz for helping me out and opening my eyes on how to rock with PE.

(FJ + G43 = Ambush Action!  )

Yes so there drop into an area and the have to set up an ambush.  Excuse me but these are Airbourne and should be about the attack not the defence.

[HansVonLuk]

I would actually say the FJ platform itself is fine, but maybe a price increase on the FG42s is in order.

Really?  Please Fjs have no health so die that much quicker.  Plus have you not read what I put, I was spell out the whole problem and you just seem to bypass this and assume there fine.

[HansVonLuk]

well I find them balanced, they don't promote unskilled mad rush on enemey, you have to stay in cover, and wtfpwn with FG42.

So thats it then a defensive unit that cloaks in cover and cannt hold territory while cloaked? 

Not being able to hold territory while camouflaged does also have it advantages. It will (probably) lower the allies guard down so they won't expect their capping Rifles/Engineers to be devastated by a Squad or 2 of Fg42/G43 Falls in ambush in that sector which will then recap the sector once they are done with the enemy infantry.

TYhey are Paratooper, plain and simple there job in to drop in and kill thing not sculk around and wait for squad to get closer.

[HansVonLuk]

the assault bonus is bloody pointless when considering how shit it is in no cover and running.

What you gotta understand is how Good FJ's are when vet 3 and with Buffs ok. the fact is every elite infantry are awesome when vet 3 and will be feared on the battlefield, but when its vet 0 its so easy to counter, with anything, rangers,airborne,commandos.

Ive always thought my FJ's were overpowered, quite substantially, nothing could take them on, not even 3 commandos squads on top of them, thats how good they are if used properly.

you just have to use them correctly and with caution as its a very very fragile unit, just like the rest of PE, you really need skill and good perception to play as PE.

Considering how much its costs, even though i would hate saying this very much as it will f up my new company hard, in the average players hand, with how much damage it can put out, its cost should be raised to atleast 300mp, they may have quite annoying counters that squash them like bugs, but the dps it can duke it is so great its phenomenal, and what PE unit doesnt have very low hp but can deal massive damage eh?

I also have a new PE build so come on allies i wanna test it out on you, maybe lucky to get one of my Fjs (doubt it  )

FJ's with those nasty G42's are about the only infantry I worry about with my rifles - I'm luck if they live long enough to throw a nade... put them at vet 3 and it's time to run for cover.. that and vet 3 4man KCH... pure axis evil.

Unless you have Bars or ranger or airbourne or Tommies then they fail.

[HansVonLuk]

so FJs are godly in cover, but crap w/o it... Great unit!

where can i find some moveable green cover from which i can fight all my battles? Seriously, you cant always be defending and in green cover w/ ambush. And when you aren't, you get fucked by....rifles

Same can be said about volkz, put then in green cover and they do great.