CommieKillerz
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« on: August 11, 2009, 12:02:35 pm » |
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I think Pak gunner does too much damage compared to allied ATG gunners.
A Luger can eliminate a squad really fast due to critical hits while carbine/enfield only does little damage most of the time.
I once had 2 vanilla tommies gone down to 2 men each by the Pak gunner.
This doesn't happen from 57mm or 6pdrs.
Combine with camo and this handgun vet becomes a serious threat to allied infantry.
Maybe critical hit values should be lowered or change luger into kar?
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« Last Edit: August 11, 2009, 01:05:39 pm by CommieKillerz »
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deadbolt
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 12:22:01 pm » |
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give at gunners colt 45 and let them decrew like pak, LOLOLOL
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Tymathee
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 12:47:54 pm » |
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if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
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Killer344
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 12:48:32 pm » |
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Combine with camo and this handgun vet becomes really dangerous to allied infantry.
Rofl. |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 12:54:11 pm » |
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give at gunners colt 45 and let them decrew like pak, LOLOLOL
I concur. |
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 01:06:04 pm » |
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if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
Yet your not, you send 2 squads to kill the last guy from the decrewed pak and he takes like no damage while headshotting all your men  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 01:06:28 pm » |
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if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
You've never lost a weakened squad to an intentionally decrewed pak before have you? |
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 01:24:54 pm » |
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that would be more of an exploit / bug if the guy is standing there without being attached to his pak.. hmm
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 01:36:15 pm » |
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its only the ambush bonus which makes the luger kill a rushing 2 men riflesquad.
dont use ur snipers to scout the enemy spawn if this is your problem..
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Illegal_Carrot
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 03:36:19 pm » |
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I've never had a problem with the PaK crew before. Each man only has ~20 HP, so it's not like they're particularly hard to kill.
If you lost two Tommy squads to one Luger, I have no idea what to tell you. God hates you?
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 03:38:26 pm » |
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my men next to my ATG just never shoot.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 03:56:58 pm » |
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I've never had a problem with the PaK crew before. Each man only has ~20 HP, so it's not like they're particularly hard to kill.
If you lost two Tommy squads to one Luger, I have no idea what to tell you. God hates you?
What what whaaaat? |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 04:06:42 pm » |
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he means it feels like the crew has 20hp each  |
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 05:07:32 pm » |
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if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
Yet your not, you send 2 squads to kill the last guy from the decrewed pak and he takes like no damage while headshotting all your men No i haven't. Cuz I usually obliterate Pak crews and have never experienced one floating around. if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
You've never lost a weakened squad to an intentionally decrewed pak before have you? No, I haven't. Like Salan says, sounds like an exploit. I"ve seen someone intentionally decrew their pak crew too and use it as a scout so its a clear exploit and should be punishable. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 05:23:43 pm » |
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if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
Yet your not, you send 2 squads to kill the last guy from the decrewed pak and he takes like no damage while headshotting all your men No i haven't. Cuz I usually obliterate Pak crews and have never experienced one floating around. if you're losing men to the luger, you're doin something wrong...
You've never lost a weakened squad to an intentionally decrewed pak before have you? No, I haven't. Like Salan says, sounds like an exploit. I"ve seen someone intentionally decrew their pak crew too and use it as a scout so its a clear exploit and should be punishable. ive never seen a 3men pak squad moving around the map without their pak, ever. only 1 man... |
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2009, 05:35:45 pm » |
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just give the pak crew Kar's and easy fix.
the luger is just a "wtf is that doing in vCOH" thing.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2009, 05:36:30 pm » |
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ive never seen a 3men pak squad moving around the map without their pak, ever. only 1 man... so you need to play more to know that you can have 3 man pak crew luger rape squad. |
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2009, 05:37:38 pm » |
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ive never seen a 3men pak squad moving around the map without their pak, ever. only 1 man... so you need to play more to know that you can have 3 man pak crew luger rape squad. ...that can camo |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2009, 05:38:19 pm » |
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ive never seen a 3men pak squad moving around the map without their pak, ever. only 1 man... so you need to play more to know that you can have 3 man pak crew luger rape squad. okok. ill try it out and maybe my opinion will change. but usually i need the crew to kill tanks u know... |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2009, 06:17:38 pm » |
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i just ried them out (4 pak crews shooting at tommies at the same time, with and without inspired assault)
the first tommy squad dies in no time (ofc, 12 luger man pewpew + ambush bonus) but after the first squad the firepower is minimized. and they die like flies, even in green cover.
same with inspired assault
they dont need to be changed, totally pointless thread (again)
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