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[VERTIGGO]

Stop basing your arguments on vCoH, because, this is not vCoH.

I see your point, but this is in fact, 90% vCoH. Without Relic, we'd have no semblance of order in the mod. vCoH may be vastly different in many ways, but it is the only standard we have to fall back on. 99% of our stats are unchanged. If we were simply inventing our own balance out of thin air, we'd just be a hundred salivating nerds in a "who would win, a wizard or a troll" style cat-fight, and God knows that's ugly.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Don't use them against light vehicles, don't get kited by medium tanks, use cover if you use them offensively, and try to not get shot by pershings or crocos, done.

So Schrecks are useless against light vehicles (the most common unit, currently), mostly useless against med vehicles, and useless against what they should be useless against. OK.. What are they useful for than? Besides, PaKs aren't useless against these units, and are cheaper; so why ever take Schrecks over a PaK? We come back to my origional point: reduce Schreck price until both Schrecks and PaKs are equally viable weapons.

Stop basing your arguments on vCoH, because, this is not vCoH.

Explain to me why Brits' AT has gotten many buffs from vCoH, RRs and Schrecks are the same, yet RRs/PIATs are about 40% more expensive, while Schrecks are 200% more expensive.

[AmPM]

They are equally viable weapons....

1 schrek = fail

1 pak = fail

combine pak and schrek = win

The problem is not schrek price, they deal fine with medium and heavy tanks, and they destroy TDs. The only problem is really light vehicle cost.

[wittman47]

shreks should diffenitly get lowered

[LuAn]

The problem is not schrek price, they deal fine with medium and heavy tanks, and they destroy TDs. The only problem is really light vehicle cost.

Ya kinda.

However the RR-Shrek relation seems a bit odd right now

[RaptorCommander]

The devs should load vCOH V 1.0. Get the orginal stats of the sherk before relics patches and put that in EIR.

Also at the end of EIR 0.700 the devs should switch RRs with Shreks. So grens can by 2RRs at a time 4 with doctrine and Airbourne 2 sherks. So all the arguments about RRs verse sherks are ended.

[RikiRude]

The devs should load vCOH V 1.0. Get the orginal stats of the sherk before relics patches and put that in EIR.

Also at the end of EIR 0.700 the devs should switch RRs with Shreks. So grens can by 2RRs at a time 4 with doctrine and Airbourne 2 sherks. So all the arguments about RRs verse sherks are ended.

lol i like it!

[VERTIGGO]

hahaha

[Mysthalin]

while...
Relic: piats on sappers are 75mun
Relic: piats on commandos are 75mun
EIRR: piats on sappers are 120mun
EIRR: piats on commandos are 100mun and the T4 unlocks 3 for 140

Don't think you're the only one here who's ever played vCoH.
Commando Piats cost 255 manpower, and that's it, in vCoH.
Sapper Piats in vCoH cost 320 MP, 75 MU.

[Dragon2008]

Don't use them against light vehicles, don't get kited by medium tanks, use cover if you use them offensively, and try to not get shot by pershings or crocos, done.

So if I can't use shreks against light vehicles what am I supposed to use?
Paks gets circled and then killed from behind. ( No light vehicle comes alone, there is always 2 or more).

I shouldn't av to call in a medium or heavy tank jus to deal with a silly little light vehicle should I? The whle point of the shrek or any handheld AT is to take out Light vehicles or support vehicles without having to rely on medium/heavy support weapons. ( Pak, P4, Panther, Tiger etc..)

[CafeMilani]

2 paks. which is not cost effective but u have no choice

[AmPM]

P4's also tear the every living crap out of light vehicles.

[VERTIGGO]

Don't think you're the only one here who's ever played vCoH.
Commando Piats cost 255 manpower, and that's it, in vCoH.
Sapper Piats in vCoH cost 320 MP, 75 MU.

Oh I forgot about that. It is a sort of special situation, like rangers, call-ins never cost fuel or munitions. I was wrong about it, but that's still a special aspect of vCoH that we're most definitely not trying to mirror in EIRR.

[Mysthalin]

Commando Piats are built from the commando HQ glider, so it's not a call-in, either .

[EliteGren]

The glider is a call in. And since they only come out of this call-inable glider they can only be bought via call in.

[VERTIGGO]

The glider is a call in. And since they only come out of this call-inable glider they can only be bought via call in.

+1 word

[Illegal_Carrot]

Commando Piats are built from the commando HQ glider, so it's not a call-in, either .

Trained/built units never cost munitions.

[gamesguy2]

while...
Relic: piats on sappers are 75mun
Relic: piats on commandos are 75mun
EIRR: piats on sappers are 120mun
EIRR: piats on commandos are 100mun and the T4 unlocks 3 for 140

Don't think you're the only one here who's ever played vCoH.
Commando Piats cost 255 manpower, and that's it, in vCoH.
Sapper Piats in vCoH cost 320 MP, 75 MU.

Tank busters and assault grenadiers don't cost munitions either.

[Mysthalin]

Eh, that's true too!
But, panzergrenadiers can be upgraded with both the MP44 or the Schreck for munitions....

Ah well, vCoH balance is borked in all but 1v1s, so let's not discuss it, anyway.

[Malevolence]

Eh, that's true too!
But, panzergrenadiers can be upgraded with both the MP44 or the Schreck for munitions....

Ah well, vCoH balance is borked in all but 1v1s, so let's not discuss it, anyway.

Between Wehr and US it's pretty good, actually, I think...