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[Ununoctium]

I liked the new EiR since its more like CoH, you need a variety of units to win.

Now its old EiR with everybody gimmicking out their ass.

Reconspam wiht stags,
clown carriers,
vehiclespam,
mysthalins: panthers and flamers in HTs
PE pure halftrack company,
officerspam (terror, infantry)
walls of longrange AT that makes playing any allied armour fail


Its mostly by choice and a need to win.
Very few doctrines are OP enough to work normally like terror and tank hunters.

So I guess its either use OP, gimmick or quit EiR,
Pick one and post since i can't make a poll.

[EIRRMod]

DOOOM!  DOOOOOM!

Killer344: testing.. 

[shockcoil]

DOOOM!  DOOOOOM!

THE END IS NIGH!!!!!!!

IMO the only real gimmick companies are those that are not even trying to win, just trying to grief. That is not on. What you've mentioned is just smart company building.

[CafeMilani]

i dont vethunt. but if theres a retreating vet3 AB 1men squad and i and i  got a sniper right next to it, why not shoot him in his face?

[Unkn0wn]

Moved to EIR Related discussions, it's too much of a broad complaint to be considered a 'balance concern'.

[Mysthalin]

You forgot to mention recon spam with stags is mine as well .

[deadbolt]

I liked the new EiR since its more like CoH, you need a variety of units to win.

Now its old EiR with everybody gimmicking out their ass.

Reconspam wiht stags,
clown carriers,
vehiclespam,
mysthalins: panthers and flamers in HTs
PE pure halftrack company,
officerspam (terror, infantry)
walls of longrange AT that makes playing any allied armour fail


Its mostly by choice and a need to win.
Very few doctrines are OP enough to work normally like terror and tank hunters.

So I guess its either use OP, gimmick or quit EiR,
Pick one and post since i can't make a poll.

first you complained about schreks being op, devs did something about it by increasing price, now axis use an alternative AT spam cos of the new availibilty system to counter light armour spam, and you're asking them to nerf practically all axis at, even more so you can run wild with your company- you'll get bored of armour and move to axis when its been nerfed then next war all we'll hear from you is, axis is up buff buff buff, nerf nerf nerf.

[Warlight]

I liked the new EiR since its more like CoH, you need a variety of units to win.

Now its old EiR with everybody gimmicking out their ass.

Reconspam wiht stags,
clown carriers,
vehiclespam,
mysthalins: panthers and flamers in HTs
PE pure halftrack company,
officerspam (terror, infantry)
walls of longrange AT that makes playing any allied armour fail


Its mostly by choice and a need to win.
Very few doctrines are OP enough to work normally like terror and tank hunters.

So I guess its either use OP, gimmick or quit EiR,
Pick one and post since i can't make a poll.

What do you mean by, "OP to work Normaly, like,... Tank hunters.'

Tank hunters doesn't work at all if know how ot use fraking AT Guns at all, and the only other person who plays them more regularly  then I used to (Wind Cries Mary) doesn't use any of the hardly any of the tank busters special abuilities.  So your fighting a mostly vanilla PE force with a buffed Panther.


You can rate faction OP ness by what factions are played by the most people.  Because people are attracted to obvious strengths plain and simple. 

[Tymathee]

killer's got mod powers huh? wonderful...

anyway, Ununoctium you complain a whole lot my man. It seems like 7 out of 10 posts about something being OP is made by you. Personally, soon i'm about to start ignoring any post started by you because it's becoming ridiculous, especially since you contradict yourself a lot and some things that you're having problems with can be fixed by a change in strategy but you'd rather they change the game for you.

[Bubz]

I've just come back to play a game and got outplayed by some kind of weird gimmick company made by pumas and pIV/pak spam. If that's what you mean unu.

[tankspirit666]

I liked the new EiR since its more like CoH, you need a variety of units to win.

That`s a long time ago.

Now its old EiR with everybody gimmicking out their ass.

Reconspam wiht stags,
clown carriers,
vehiclespam,
mysthalins: panthers and flamers in HTs
PE pure halftrack company,
officerspam (terror, infantry)
walls of longrange AT that makes playing any allied armour fail

AB Spam, Ranger Spam, Tommy Spam, etc. .

Its mostly by choice and a need to win.
Very few doctrines are OP enough to work normally like terror and tank hunters.

ABs are OP against Tanks . Tank Hunter Doc is OP against Tanks Underpowered against Infantry.

So I guess its either use OP, gimmick or quit EiR,
Pick one and post since i can't make a poll.

I quitted EiR since a while, I can`t take it anymore . It`s getting out of balance more and more. Take a look at 0.7.0c. Vehicle Spam is an issue , okay lets drop Munitions and Fuel Prices for Allies. I don`t know who the balance master is here, but he should consider to play more EiR or stop doing drugs. Sorry, but it`s pissing me off.

[AmPM]

Oh noes, supposedly OP gimmicks!!

Wait, I seem to be doing ok with Tigers and Stormtroopers!!! zomg! They must be OP units!!

[DasNoob]

Hey ampm, didn't we just WTF pwn airborne spam last night with our non-gimmick builds?

[CafeMilani]

Oh noes, supposedly OP gimmicks!!

Wait, I seem to be doing ok with Tigers and Stormtroopers!!! zomg! They must be OP units!!

where are the new moderators?

[Unkn0wn]

I quitted EiR since a while, I can`t take it anymore . It`s getting out of balance more and more. Take a look at 0.7.0c. Vehicle Spam is an issue , okay lets drop Munitions and Fuel Prices for Allies. I don`t know who the balance master is here, but he should consider to play more EiR or stop doing drugs. Sorry, but it`s pissing me off.

I'm sorry you feel that way.
I don't see where light vehicles were lowered in fuel though?
We lowered the availability on light vehicles for allies, we increased the value of the T17 in its pool and we increased the fuel price on both the T17 and the Staghound.

We are progressing towards reduced light vehicle spam, one step at a time.

Honestly, I've seen quite a lot of 'gimmicks' but so far there has not been a single one that I did not manage to overcome with my balanced, non gimmick, company. Sure some of them are annoying to fight against at best but nothing proper micro, coordination and teamwork can't overcome.

The only gimmick that I have ever had trouble with is sniper spam. (It's a bitch to fight when properly supported)

[lionel23]

I don't think you properly read the patch notes tankspirit666, and I think you're misunderstanding what the patch was about.

As Unkn0wn has clearly stated, this is what the patch did:

Lower Vehicle Availability - meaning less vehicles can be in your company without being forced to pay a penalty

Unit Price Increase for Light vehicles - It now takes more resources to purchase and have light vehicles in their armies at the expense of other things

Pop Increase - The pop price of the T17 is now on par with the Sherman Crocodile and Sherman tank.  So if your company could only field 4 Shermans, you could at most do 4 T17s or a split with them before to empty your armor supply pool!

I've had no problems with gimmicky companies with my all-round balanced infantry/tank destroyer force, though I do agree mass sniper spam is annoying to deal with when properly supported and covered XD Thankfully that's why Command HQ gives us artillery...... ^^

[CrazyWR]

bit silly pricing t17s to equal shermans and crocs...but hey, double nerfs are what COH players are used to...

[Unkn0wn]

They didn't get a pop increase AFAIK.

[CrazyWR]

They cost 4 now as opposed to every other light vehicle except the Brit Staghound.  All others costs 3 or less...

[lionel23]

Very expensive light vehicles, but since my US Infantry doesn't have access to anything better... XD

But yeah, they went up to 4 against the supply pool Unknown, besides having a higher fuel cost with a lowered total pool for light vehicles.  A lot of hits at once, I think.